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Old 12-04-2012, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow

Something doesn't make sense in what you are telling me. Or, more likely, I've been told something that is incorrect.
Well, ideally, what do you see as the connection between the PWA and the "operation". Or in other words, from the time you sign in, to the time you're done, absent a reroute and rest, what sections of the contract apply directly to operation of the aircraft?
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:03 PM
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Jeez, if you don't wanna make the PAs don't do them.
Can we beat this dead horse any more???
Exactly. Either do it or don't. You are also required to stand in the door and say goodbye to the passengers. It seems that the compliance on that is far less than 50% right now. How many guys have been fired for not saying goodbye? Zero.
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Exactly. Either do it or don't. You are also required to stand in the door and say goodbye to the passengers. It seems that the compliance on that is far less than 50% right now. How many guys have been fired for not saying goodbye? Zero.
Chapter and verse on required to stand there, please.

(For the record, I do stand and say goodbye unless we're running late and have a plane change)
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
Well, ideally, what do you see as the connection between the PWA and the "operation". Or in other words, from the time you sign in, to the time you're done, absent a reroute and rest, what sections of the contract apply directly to operation of the aircraft?
To me, there is a direct connection between the operation and the PWA. If I screw up in the operation, it is the PWA that gives the union the contractual right to represent me in any disciplinary matter. Is that correct?
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:58 PM
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This horse needs some more beating.

The memo was poorly staffed and worded. It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last.

For the record, I think the word choice of line check "blitz" is a poor choice of words, but I don't think it rises to the level of "panties in a wad" bad. I thought the word choice of doing the walkaround "in the shadow of the aircraft" was a poor choice of words too. I remember when DAL memos used to be full of misspellings. Etc, etc, etc.

Hold that horses head, I'm gonna kick it in the nu...

Underboob, I'm beggin ya.
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:01 PM
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Anyone care to help me with finding chapter and verse on where alfa's claim that saying bye to the pax is in our manuals? I've searched high and low in the FOM.... no dice.
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Anyone care to help me with finding chapter and verse on where alfa's claim that saying bye to the pax is in our manuals? I've searched high and low in the FOM.... no dice.
FOM Chapter 7.1.12 -- Passenger Deplaning
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:27 PM
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Ha, just found it and came back here and saw your post, newK.

Passenger Deplaning
While passengers are deplaning, a pilot should stand at the deplaning door to thankour customers whenever possible.
• Pilots should not deplane until all passengers have departed the aircraft,
unless early deplaning is necessary for operational reasons or passenger
assistance.
• Pilots will use good judgment not to interfere with any passenger or with
the normal deplaning flow.
Not anywhere near the strong wording that is in the gatehouse PA memo.

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Old 12-04-2012, 08:33 PM
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Okay, here's a question. I'm going to training at the end of January. On the calendar portion of the PBS website, for the 2 days just prior to going to training it says PTP. Are these days blocked off for travel to training? That's the only thing I can think of but they are not listed on the VTS page in DBMS.

Thanks for any help.

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Old 12-04-2012, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Okay, here's a question. I'm going to training at the end of January. On the calendar portion of the PBS website, for the 2 days just prior to going to training it says PTP. Are these days blocked off for travel to training? That's the only thing I can think of but they are not listed on the VTS page in DBMS.

Thanks for any help.

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That's what they are for, but I think you can make them optional when you bid.

You have to double-check me on that one for sure.
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