iceman49

Buzz why not a letter to our VP Ops SD, I'm sure there have been numerous FCRs at this point about the situation, maybe push back from the top end would have a little more oomph. Curious, after block in were you outside the 15 minute window?

80ktsClamp

Which one of the salesmen was the one that said that? I just remember rolling my eyes at the mention of "not being senior enough to hold reserve." Im so senior that I cant hold a line!

iceman49

Think thats where the separate block and rsv cat comes into play...the way it is now...some junior or senior block holder wants the holidays off they bid back down to rev for the month and put in the x days for holiday period...the junior guys are still on rsv. PBS global solution is always another way to do it.

georgetg

If you're in SLC, Qdoba just opened on the lower level of T1 and they offer a 50% employee discount...

Cheers
George

Wilbur Wright

Great news. Thanks!

forgot to bid

I'm not sure they're aware that it's even put out.

Sometimes they award SCs that are not even listed as an option.

flyallnite

A new Flt Ops policy states the pilots should make a PA to the pax every 15 minutes of a delay, including prior to boarding at the gate. So, I'm wondering, if we aren't getting paid while the plane sits empty at the gate, and we are now obliged to stand at the ticket counter in full uniform during a delay making announcements along with ACS, will this be reflected in our pay?

I'm not against the practice, but now that the company has codified it in the FOM, doesn't this 'break the veil' of suggested vs mandatory work obligations? For example, if you sign in for a trip and find out that your departure time has slid 2 hours, according to this FOB you'd be obliged to head to the gate ASAP to get started on the PA making. No mention of international differences, so one must assume this applies in Accra as well as Akron.

I'm thinking that according to our contract, if I HAVE to be someplace and do something specific to my job, that I should be paid for it!

I don't see any difference between this and say, being obligated to load baggage between flights or grab some wands and marshall in my outbound equipment. I'd be glad to help if I have time, but it's not my job and therefore I shouldn't be REQ'D to perform it WITHOUT COMPENSATION.

Denny Crane

From what you have written, yes it does sound like we are now obligated to go out to the gate and make those announcements as long as we are signed in and "on duty." I'm not saying it's right but, in a sense, if you are on duty you are subject to duty credit (a type of pay). The argument could be made that you are getting paid.... Again, not saying I agree with it......

As far as if you were on a layover and notified that your show time has changed due to a delay, the company definition of the word "should" would apply:

Should - The word “should” is used to indicate that compliance is
expected. Deviations are permitted only where an operational requirement
exists.

(This definition comes from the Vol.1 but I expect it can be used in this case.)

With that definition, I would say it was an operational requirement to remain in crew rest.

Denny

johnso29

I'm certain they don't know. I asked a scheduler about it, & she told me she has never seen it. Each day they're instructed which SCs to cover, and so that's what they assign.

sailingfun

System wide the company has only averaged just under 3 short calls a month for the last several years for reserve pilots. You would never make a case that they are putting people on short call just because they can. There is a agreement on numbers of short calls and the company has so far shown excellent compliance. The union does look into pilot issues with excessive short calls. 99 percent of the time the pilots have miss understood the short call list and the days and times pilots are on call. If you feel they are abusing your category call ALPA. They will check out the dates you give them. Tomorrow is however the busiest travel day of the entire year.