Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
I always put a little "oomph" in my FCRs. They may not care...but they read them.
Our contract is already as or more restrictive than the new rest rules for the most part... I'm hearing 300 or so pilots?
Let's say you're 4% from the bottom or bidding around 96%. What does that buy you? (using current category list and not the projected one off our last system bid)
Well, you'd be a March 2008 hire for one.
You would hold:
- SLC A320 B and be around 90%
- NYC M88 B and be around 38%
- NYC 7ER B and be around 87%
- NYC 737 B and be around 90%
- NYC A320 B and be around 53%
- MSP M88 B and be around 78%
- MSP 320 B and be around 93%
- DTW DC9 B and be around 50%
- DTW 7ER B and be around 99.6%
- DTW 320 B and be around 84%
- CVG M88 B and be around 85%
- CVG 737 B and be around 97%
- ATL M88 B and be around 90%
- ATL DC9 B and be around 29%
- ATL 737 B and be around 99%
You wouldn't hold the following categories right now:
- Any Captain (A) position
- SLC 7ER FO (B)
- SLC 73N B, almost, but a few numbers back.
- SEA 7ER B
- SEA A330 B
- NYC 767-400 B (referred to here as the 765)
- MSP 7ER B
- LAX 7ER B
- LAX 737 B
- DTW 777 B
- DTW 747 B
- DTW 330 B
- ATL 7ER B
- ATL 777 B
- ATL 767-400 B
- ATL 767 DOMESTIC B
- ATL 330 B
- ATL 320 B
I think I got it all.
We have about 11,805 pilots and 1,100 are out due to sick leave, furlough or military leave. And to answer your question,
- ATL: 777, 330, 764, 767/7ER, 737, 320, M88 and DC9.
- CVG: 737, M88
- DTW: 777, 747, 7ER, 330, 320, DC9
- LAX: 7ER, 737
- MSP: 7ER, 320, M88
- NYC: 764, 7ER, 320, 737 and M88
- SEA: 7ER and 330
- SLC: 330, 320, 737
Keep in mind though, things will be a lot different when hiring resumes and retirements kick in. There are people learning to fly right now that'll be within a few % points on the list from pilots already flying here. I can point to a 2001 and 2007 hire where that's the case and there's only a 1% difference between them. But look at other parts of the list and excluding differences with the merger, 1% doesn't elicit that much of a difference in timing.
What happened to the DC-9, ftb? I thought it was THE DC-9?
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I know you're trying to do some research so let me give you a bit of a feel for what seniority buys here.
Let's say you're 4% from the bottom or bidding around 96%. What does that buy you? (using current category list and not the projected one off our last system bid)
Well, you'd be a March 2008 hire for one.
You would hold:
You wouldn't hold the following categories right now:
I think I got it all.
We have about 11,805 pilots and 1,100 are out due to sick leave, furlough or military leave. And to answer your question,
Keep in mind though, things will be a lot different when hiring resumes and retirements kick in. There are people learning to fly right now that'll be within a few % points on the list from pilots already flying here. I can point to a 2001 and 2007 hire where that's the case and there's only a 1% difference between them. But look at other parts of the list and excluding differences with the merger, 1% doesn't elicit that much of a difference in timing.
Let's say you're 4% from the bottom or bidding around 96%. What does that buy you? (using current category list and not the projected one off our last system bid)
Well, you'd be a March 2008 hire for one.
You would hold:
- SLC A320 B and be around 90%
- NYC M88 B and be around 38%
- NYC 7ER B and be around 87%
- NYC 737 B and be around 90%
- NYC A320 B and be around 53%
- MSP M88 B and be around 78%
- MSP 320 B and be around 93%
- DTW DC9 B and be around 50%
- DTW 7ER B and be around 99.6%
- DTW 320 B and be around 84%
- CVG M88 B and be around 85%
- CVG 737 B and be around 97%
- ATL M88 B and be around 90%
- ATL DC9 B and be around 29%
- ATL 737 B and be around 99%
You wouldn't hold the following categories right now:
- Any Captain (A) position
- SLC 7ER FO (B)
- SLC 73N B, almost, but a few numbers back.
- SEA 7ER B
- SEA A330 B
- NYC 767-400 B (referred to here as the 765)
- MSP 7ER B
- LAX 7ER B
- LAX 737 B
- DTW 777 B
- DTW 747 B
- DTW 330 B
- ATL 7ER B
- ATL 777 B
- ATL 767-400 B
- ATL 767 DOMESTIC B
- ATL 330 B
- ATL 320 B
I think I got it all.
We have about 11,805 pilots and 1,100 are out due to sick leave, furlough or military leave. And to answer your question,
- ATL: 777, 330, 764, 767/7ER, 737, 320, M88 and DC9.
- CVG: 737, M88
- DTW: 777, 747, 7ER, 330, 320, DC9
- LAX: 7ER, 737
- MSP: 7ER, 320, M88
- NYC: 764, 7ER, 320, 737 and M88
- SEA: 7ER and 330
- SLC: 330, 320, 737
Keep in mind though, things will be a lot different when hiring resumes and retirements kick in. There are people learning to fly right now that'll be within a few % points on the list from pilots already flying here. I can point to a 2001 and 2007 hire where that's the case and there's only a 1% difference between them. But look at other parts of the list and excluding differences with the merger, 1% doesn't elicit that much of a difference in timing.
This is pretty close to the projected requirements of pilots for each base for May '13.
ATL: 3544
DTW: 1770
NYC: 1397
MSP: 1302
SLC: 552
SEA: 489
CVG: 251
ATL: 3544
DTW: 1770
NYC: 1397
MSP: 1302
SLC: 552
SEA: 489
CVG: 251
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