Timbo

How, did he go skiing on his off days?

I don't think he's been on the field enought to get hurt while playing!

Sanchez tried to put his own head up that one guys arse, and couldn't even get that done! That was pretty funny.

daldude

"5 years at DAL, 5% up the list. At this average rate I will be holding A320 captain after 50 years at DAL! Almost guaranteed! Err, wait, the average male life expectancy says I'll be dead by then. I never wanted to use that tiller anyways"

Don't worry you are doing quite a bit better than the 2001 hires. I have moved up 9.44% in the last decade and 1.6% since 2008. The 1999-2001 hire group (Depends on if you were DAL or NW) does not break into the top 50% of the seniority list until 2022 (21-23 years after being hired they can be Jr. narrow body Capt.) So, with only 586 retirements between now and 2017 you should expect continued stagnation. Yes we are getting the 717's, but according to many people we are pretty fat with pilots and most of those position will come out of our current pilot group despite what the company and union led us to believe prior to the PWA being signed and have since backed away from.

But hey what can we say. At least we are not 1999 hires at United, my brother is in that boat.

"I was 10% from the bottom of the list pre SLI, 10% post SLI, and am around 3% better than that now, but way more junior than I was in ATL pre-SLI on a much smaller airplane. Gah![/QUOTE]"

That would be expected when you merge with a company with that has 258 narrow body aircraft and 62 wide body aircraft. Then you shed 24% of those wide body aircraft (62-15 cargo 747)and 20% of the narrow body fleet (68 original DC9's -52). Every body moves down you are fat with pilots, you don't hire for years and pilots move to bases they deem more desirable which in the case of this merger appears to be LAX, ATL and SLC. I would say SEA but since it's not a hub and all

Just to be fair the original Delta pilots did the same thing to the original Western pilot bases. It is what it is.

poostain

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That would be expected when you merge with a company with that has 258 narrow body aircraft and 62 wide body aircraft. Then you shed 24% of those wide body aircraft (62-15 cargo 747)and 20% of the narrow body fleet (68 original DC9's -52). Every body moves down you are fat with pilots, you don't hire for years and pilots move to bases they deem more desirable which in the case of this merger appears to be LAX, ATL and SLC. I would say SEA but since it's not a hub and all

Just to be fair the original Delta pilots did the same thing to the original Western pilot bases. It is what it is.[/QUOTE]
You just made black Friday, inky black Friday

poostain

You just made black Friday, inky black Friday[/QUOTE]
Not sure why that post came out weird like that

johnso29

I wish people would learn to use the quote function properly. Good grief.

Sorry. I have a cold so I'm grumpy.

sailingfun

Delta dramatically increased the flying at the original Western bases. There was no stagnation after the merger. In fact there was extensive growth. Both LAX and SLC saw a huge increase in RSM's and a increase in flights. Both of those former Western Hubs are much larger even today then at the time of the merger.
Having said that I am somewhat amused or bewildered, not sure which about your comments that the original Delta pilots did it to the western pilots. Do you honestly think the pilots control where flights go?????

poostain

Sorry. My fat fingers and the android don't mix well.

johnso29

I know. It's easy to mess it up. Like I said, my cold has me in a grumpy mood. Sorry.

Timbo

In 1988, I was a BOS based 727 F/E, standing in the SLC pilot lounge, the day the Bid Award was posted, that put 40 767 slots into SLC. As I looked down the list, the top 20 767 possitions were all previous 727 Capts. and the next 20 were all 737 Capts. The Delta pay rate on the 767 was about DOUBLE what the former Western 737 pay rate was.

Yeah, the Western guys REALLY got screwed!

Western was mostly a 737 Airline, They had some 727's too, and 5 DC10's, replaced by Delta's L1011's on the west coast, oh, and then there were all the MD11's Delta put into LAX.

I just hope that some day, before I retire, somebody buys Delta, and Screws me like that!

You can have my date of hire, and my Seniority Number, just double my pay and put me into a brand new wide body, when I'm looking at retiring off a 737....

daldude

I totally stand corrected. I did not know that there was massive growth after the Western Merger, I guess I assumed it was like the most recent merger where some groups of the original Delta pilots just get more and more Jr in bases such as ATL, SLC and LAX. My bad. I received my info from the Capt's that I fly with that came out west after the Western merger and assumed mistakenly that it happened in the same way it is and has occurred over the last few years. Once again I made a statement with out facts. My bad

My only personnel Delta experiences are: furlough, merger, capacity reduction, and loss of seniority as pilots exercise there rights to move to bases that were not originally available to them.

However, I would not have been oppossed to huge increases in RSM's and flights following the merger. I just did not know it was actually could happen.

And one final note, all of the former NW Capt's I have flown with are very happy flying out of LAX and SLC. Every one of them saying he was looking at commuting for the rest of his career prior to the merger. I have only flown with one NW Capt based in ATL but he was happy also because be had been commuting from Chattanooga TN to DTW for something like 15 years. So its all good. And truthfully if original Delta guys have flooded into MSP and DTW then disregard everything I have said because with the exception of my personal info I actually have know idea that very well could be the case.

I will be quiet now.