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11-21-2012, 03:28 PM

#115991

Pineapple Guy

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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog

Virtually every professional non-pilot I know is able to use personal sick time to care for an unwell family member. Maybe it's time we lobby to be able to do the same?

I agree 100%, and HAVE lobbied my reps for this for the past 16 years, ever since we got rid of Authorized Personal Leave, which used to be in the Delta contract. Unfortunately, my view has been in the minority, as we've yet to get anything like that back. Thus, I abide by the contract, and if I'M sick, I call in sick; but if a family member is sick, I either personal drop or swap, or fly the trip. Which sucks, for those of us who don't abuse sick leave by calling in sick for a family member's illness in clear violation of the contract.

11-21-2012, 03:28 PM

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sailingfun

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Originally Posted by dc10guy

Is there anyway to get your sick time back if you are out on OJI and burn your sicktime? It seems like a big penalty if you can't for an OJI injury.

Sick leave regenerates on 1 June. In your situation you need to contact Dalpa and speak with a benefits person. There are several aspects in your situation. It should have been the first call you made. Hopefully it's not to late to get the best outcome.

11-21-2012, 03:30 PM

#115993

Pineapple Guy

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Originally Posted by PilotFrog

FMLA is also NOT paid.

But if you move your vacation into the FMLA period, the vacation WILL be.

11-21-2012, 03:34 PM

#115994

Scoop

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy

1. Calling in sick is illegal, so not an option, unless you have no integrity.
2. FMLA is available, and you can move unused vacation into the time period to get paid.

Not exactly correct PG. States have different versions of Family Medical Leave. This is legal in California (CA KIN Care) and the LAX CPO and the DAL schedulers are very familiar with it. You call and sick and tell them its for your spouse (try to remain calm PG

). It works like regular sick leave (full pay) with the added bonus that you even get to keep your integrity.

Not sure where your are based but you may want to check out the FMLA or see if your state has a similar law. Good luck.

Scoop

11-21-2012, 03:39 PM

#115995

dc10guy

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Thanks. Have been in touch with her. I just did not know if the CP can reinstate some of your sicktime or not. Just seems odd if they can not do to an OJI.

11-21-2012, 04:24 PM

#115996

gloopy

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Originally Posted by buzzpat

We need to re-pursue this next contract. There wouldn't be nearly the stress on the reserve system, slips, sick, if guys could bid to fly trips for holidays and reimbursed accordingly. Like Timbo pointed out, we're the only employee group who doesn't get paid more for working on holidays. Where's the "me too" in that?

Also, night pay, please.

Those things, especially holiday pay, would be free for the company because they would dramatically cut down on sick calls and the resulting perpetual self induced panic green slip crisis every holiday.

11-21-2012, 04:37 PM

#115997

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

Yep.... we're having a baby within the next 6 weeks. I will not be fit for work with a newborn at home!

SIX WEEKS!!!!

Man, its too bad your body can't bank sleep. it'll be funny because I'm sure the clamp show will still be on at 1-2am like it its now, just it'll also be back on at 4am, 6am, 8am, 10am, 1pm, 5pm, 7pm, 9pm, 11pm, 1am and repeat.

if we catch you with a YS, we will blackmail you.

11-21-2012, 05:20 PM

#115998

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11-21-2012, 06:01 PM

#115999

johnso29

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy

WRONG. If you fail to meet the criteria of the IMSAFE checklist, the FARs prohibit you from legally operating the aircraft. It does NOT mean Delta is obligated to PAY you. Delta's obligation falls under the PWA, and has been explained in other posts.

And sickness is defined in the contract, but it's somewhat of a grey area. If one feels they meet the definition of sickness in the PWA, they are completely within their contractual rights to call in sick. With over 11,000 pilots there will be many different interpretations of the definition. People have different immune systems, different tolerances, etc. It simply can not be whittled down to a black and white definition. What you may consider not to be an illness, very well could be an illness to someone else. If the company feels someone is abusing sick time usage, they'll address it.