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11-17-2012, 02:10 PM
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Can we please stop re-posting those Rhianna pictures? They are getting a bit played out.
11-17-2012, 02:15 PM
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Its not unusual to run just to make a point.
I doubt he ever had any misconceptions that he could win.
The idea was to make all of us aware that the election for MEC Chairman is a closed door affair with ZERO line pilot imput. Not only do we not get to vote for this critical position, we usually don't even know who is running.
The whole MEC administration and all the committee positions are chosen in a process that is more fitting for some secret society than a supposedly open and democratic union.
Think about it. Our Master Chairman was just ousted and we have no clue why or what the issues were that separated the candidates. The MEC operates entirely in secret.
Line pilots are treated like mushrooms. We are purposely excluded from almost every meaningful decision. That's why nobody ever attends an MEC meeting. As soon as they get done discussing the weather and serving the refreshments they close the meeting and go into "executive session".
I think Art Aaron should be praised for at least trying to shine a little light into that process.
I doubt he ever had any misconceptions that he could win.
The idea was to make all of us aware that the election for MEC Chairman is a closed door affair with ZERO line pilot imput. Not only do we not get to vote for this critical position, we usually don't even know who is running.
The whole MEC administration and all the committee positions are chosen in a process that is more fitting for some secret society than a supposedly open and democratic union.
Think about it. Our Master Chairman was just ousted and we have no clue why or what the issues were that separated the candidates. The MEC operates entirely in secret.
Line pilots are treated like mushrooms. We are purposely excluded from almost every meaningful decision. That's why nobody ever attends an MEC meeting. As soon as they get done discussing the weather and serving the refreshments they close the meeting and go into "executive session".
I think Art Aaron should be praised for at least trying to shine a little light into that process.
I will submit that the election was all in open, many of the committee reports including the budget were in open session. Only things in closed were certain parts of Strategic Planning, Communications, Executive Brief and Negotiating. The hospitality suite is open to all pilots as well. There was no executive session only closed session this time.
There was one pilot that showed up and used the allotted five minutes per pilot to speak to the MEC as well.
11-17-2012, 02:21 PM
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I will submit that the election was all in open, many of the committee reports including the budget were in open session. Only things in closed were certain parts of Strategic Planning, Communications, Executive Brief and Negotiating. The hospitality suite is open to all pilots as well. There was no executive session only closed session this time.
There was one pilot that showed up and used the allotted five minutes per pilot to speak to the MEC as well.
There was one pilot that showed up and used the allotted five minutes per pilot to speak to the MEC as well.
11-17-2012, 02:30 PM
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11-17-2012, 03:28 PM
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That's why we have a negotiating committee. The Chairman always signs on PWA, LOA's, etc. That does not mean he is a negotiator, nor needs to be to be qualified for the job. I don't believe Moak was a negotiator either. This is a minor shift in MEC leadership. The real seat of power is in the LEC's of which 30% are up for elections in any year. Change is the norm. The Chairman is (supposed to be) more like Speaker of the House, not El Jefe.
11-17-2012, 04:20 PM
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11-17-2012, 05:12 PM
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11-17-2012, 05:24 PM
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That's why we have a negotiating committee. The Chairman always signs on PWA, LOA's, etc. That does not mean he is a negotiator, nor needs to be to be qualified for the job. I don't believe Moak was a negotiator either. This is a minor shift in MEC leadership. The real seat of power is in the LEC's of which 30% are up for elections in any year. Change is the norm. The Chairman is (supposed to be) more like Speaker of the House, not El Jefe.
11-17-2012, 06:03 PM
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11-17-2012, 06:16 PM
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The skipper's new lid,shiney...........never been sat on.
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