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Old 11-12-2012, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Wel, the UAL/CAL TA has passed the MEC & been released. So far, it's not impressive. Rates less then DAL, scope identical to DAL, & work rules look worse.
Where did you see it?
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:34 PM
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Where did you see it?
That other site.....FI. Plus, they're squawking about it in the CAL/UAL merger forum.
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
Had a really close friend leave Comair a couple years ago. (Smart decision) Since then he has worked at the FAA. I'm surprised at how hard those Feds work and what they do. The FSDO sucks but the rest of the Feds are busy with next gen stuff, airport inspections, and a whole lot of other crap. I've spent a few days at the Seattle office just tagging along.
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
That other site.....FI. Plus, they're squawking about it in the CAL/UAL merger forum.
Thanks Johnson!
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
That other site.....FI. Plus, they're squawking about it in the CAL/UAL merger forum.
I don't think squawking is the right term, haha...

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Old 11-12-2012, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I love how I've flown more than anyone in my category, and because of that I haven't sat a short call yet. So, I'm in Raw group 2.. the only one, but yet I get short call tomorrow. So, I'm first up to go even though everyone else has flown less and is in another bucket.

We've got to put short call assignments in with the raw groups. Unbelievable.
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I don't think squawking is the right term, haha...

That's how it seemed for us.
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:50 AM
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Disregard. 15 minutes of typing down the crapper.



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Old 11-13-2012, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ImTumbleweed
DALPA won't fix it.

If I've learned one thing at DAL it's that DALPA will throw the junior guys under the bus.

Their motto is "I got mine MF'er!" as they pull the ladder up.

It sucks, but that's how it is.

Don't worry...you'll be senior someday (in another 15 years).
And I can't tell you how many times I have had senior guys tell me "When is ALPA going to start respecting senior guys and not kiss the *** of junior guys?"

It's all in your perspective.
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Old 11-13-2012, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ImTumbleweed
DALPA won't fix it.

If I've learned one thing at DAL it's that DALPA will throw the junior guys under the bus.

Their motto is "I got mine MF'er!" as they pull the ladder up.

It sucks, but that's how it is.

Don't worry...you'll be senior someday (in another 15 years).

Your post is one of the more ignorant I have seen on here. Reserve is first off not just a junior issue. Pilots with 3 digit seniority numbers sit reserve. Reserve is spread throughout the list. Reserve is also the most improved section of the contract in the last 25 years. No other section even comes close in terms of quality of life changes.
Dalpa has over the years done things never considered by other unions for junior pilots. They were the first to cover medical for furloughed pilots.

They were the first to get furloughed time counted for years of service for pay steps and retirement.

When the retirement plan was frozen the company wanted to replace it with a flat 9 percent DC plan to each pilot. Dalpa changed that to a targeted plan to provide substantially more money to the junior pilots and often 0 percent to the senior guys.

When the retirement plan was terminated they went to a flat DC plan rather then try and balance it back with another targeted plan.

The note money which was distributed to offset the retirement lost in the termination would have gone almost totally to the senior pilots if distributed on a straight percentage basis using the lost retirement of each pilot. DALPA felt that would send to much to the top 50 percent of the pilots so they changed every pilots FAE to 205,000 per year in the calculations to move money more down the list. That still left most going to the top half so they added a years of service minimum distribution.

They modified greenslips to include seniority only in the first one awarded a change from all awards to 2 awards and now 1.

The pay structure has been changed and new hire pilots have received far greater overall raises then any other portion of the list. No more 1500/ 1800 dollars a month flat rate pay ect..

Since the 1113 contract some of the single most expensive improvements such as elimination of recovery flying for training trip drops and increases in furlough protection were negotiated for the junior pilots.

I could go on and on but am tired of typing.
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