Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-12-2012, 04:42 PM
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I don't think UT is gonna be able to afford to hire another mid major coach with "promise". They are gonna have to back the dumptruck full o'money up to somebody's house and get someone that can win tomorrow.. not 3 years from tomorrow. Bobby Petrino with all the baggage he has, might be such a name. Personally I like Charlie Strong even though he has that gator DNA, but he can win, and he can recruit south Florida. There is a lot of talk about Jon Gruden, but I hope that is just rumor because the NFL will call and he be gone leaving another train wreck in his wake. I liked Dooley, but unfortunately he was our Mike Shula. WE need a true college coach like Saban or Chip Kelly.
But as so many of my UK friends are so fond of saying "I can hardly wait till basketball season"!
But as so many of my UK friends are so fond of saying "I can hardly wait till basketball season"!
11-12-2012, 04:43 PM
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Not 100% True.
Have a friend of the family who flew for the BundesLuftwaffe. A320 pilot flying their version of SAM aircraft. Got out and turned down by Lufthansa.
They want to train their new-hires from the ground up.
Not saying it's right or wrong.. but to say that there are no home grown pilots in Germany is not true.
Motch
Have a friend of the family who flew for the BundesLuftwaffe. A320 pilot flying their version of SAM aircraft. Got out and turned down by Lufthansa.
They want to train their new-hires from the ground up.
Not saying it's right or wrong.. but to say that there are no home grown pilots in Germany is not true.
Motch
The civil pilots I knew in Europe did anything and everything to build flight time. Interestingly, those countries are small enough - and their aviation communities are even smaller - so many military pilots know their civil counterparts quite well and vice versa. There is significant overlap in the recreational flying between each.
OTOH, wasn't their an academy affiliated with DAL that guaranteed graduates a job instructing and later guaranteed them an interview at a particular regional?
11-12-2012, 04:45 PM
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Although I don't hold out much hope that ALPA will use this opportunity to our advantage, they really ought to take a page from the American Medical Association.
You can't practice medicine, pass laws, stay certified, and a plethora of other mandates unless you go get the blessing by the AMA. Heck, you can't even get basic antibiotics from a pharmacist without a prescription. I know, nurse practitioners can prescribe in some states, but all must be under the umbrella of a physician and many can't prescribe narcotics.
Kill your patient? The AMA vigorously defends its members from liability. They are deeply involved with the process from undergraduate through residency. They have the political power to get it done and prevent outsourcing in their ranks. But it's true, that profession isn't what it used to be either, although they certainly have outpaced us in recent years.
I do think the ALPA should get involved in the process, even if it's just an ancillary role.
You can't practice medicine, pass laws, stay certified, and a plethora of other mandates unless you go get the blessing by the AMA. Heck, you can't even get basic antibiotics from a pharmacist without a prescription. I know, nurse practitioners can prescribe in some states, but all must be under the umbrella of a physician and many can't prescribe narcotics.
Kill your patient? The AMA vigorously defends its members from liability. They are deeply involved with the process from undergraduate through residency. They have the political power to get it done and prevent outsourcing in their ranks. But it's true, that profession isn't what it used to be either, although they certainly have outpaced us in recent years.
I do think the ALPA should get involved in the process, even if it's just an ancillary role.
11-12-2012, 04:46 PM
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Delta has it covered when you start getting into subsidiaries/holding companies/shell games/etc. Just as they'll lease a jet to Skywest for a dollar a month, they could "subsidize" pilots by charging them a dollar per hour for Seminole time. They'll sign any contract you put in front of them.
Take myself for example - I was hired and paid by Delta as an academy instructor and as a Comair pilot. I've worn the widget for 12 years, but I'm still not on the Delta seniority list. I have no doubt that Delta could have paid for my training and gotten me to commit to whatever, only through a shell company that would keep me off the seniority list.
And then there's the underboob...
Take myself for example - I was hired and paid by Delta as an academy instructor and as a Comair pilot. I've worn the widget for 12 years, but I'm still not on the Delta seniority list. I have no doubt that Delta could have paid for my training and gotten me to commit to whatever, only through a shell company that would keep me off the seniority list.
And then there's the underboob...
11-12-2012, 05:39 PM
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Airlines Face Acute Shortage of Pilots - WSJ.com
When we were debating C2012, a DCI management guy started a thread based on the premise that we should not give up anything to entice Delta to park RJ's, because it would happen anyway due to an impending dearth of qualified pilots to operate them.
He was roundly thrashed and discredited by the DALPA propaganda machine. As it turns out, he was spot on.
I'd like to hear DALPA's excuse for its:
a) refusal to acknowledge that the impending reg changes equated to massive leverage for us
and
b) failure to capitalize on same.
Let's also see a public apology from DALPA for:
a) disingenuously thrashing that guy's argument
and
b) lying to us about this not being an issue.
When we were debating C2012, a DCI management guy started a thread based on the premise that we should not give up anything to entice Delta to park RJ's, because it would happen anyway due to an impending dearth of qualified pilots to operate them.
He was roundly thrashed and discredited by the DALPA propaganda machine. As it turns out, he was spot on.
I'd like to hear DALPA's excuse for its:
a) refusal to acknowledge that the impending reg changes equated to massive leverage for us
and
b) failure to capitalize on same.
Let's also see a public apology from DALPA for:
a) disingenuously thrashing that guy's argument
and
b) lying to us about this not being an issue.
Last edited by Purple Drank; 11-12-2012 at 05:50 PM.
11-12-2012, 05:48 PM
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Speaking of RAA and Roger Cohen......
11-12-2012, 05:51 PM
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Although I don't hold out much hope that ALPA will use this opportunity to our advantage, they really ought to take a page from the American Medical Association.
You can't practice medicine, pass laws, stay certified, and a plethora of other mandates unless you go get the blessing by the AMA. Heck, you can't even get basic antibiotics from a pharmacist without a prescription. I know, nurse practitioners can prescribe in some states, but all must be under the umbrella of a physician and many can't prescribe narcotics.
Kill your patient? The AMA vigorously defends its members from liability. They are deeply involved with the process from undergraduate through residency. They have the political power to get it done and prevent outsourcing in their ranks. But it's true, that profession isn't what it used to be either, although they certainly have outpaced us in recent years.
I do think the ALPA should get involved in the process, even if it's just an ancillary role.
You can't practice medicine, pass laws, stay certified, and a plethora of other mandates unless you go get the blessing by the AMA. Heck, you can't even get basic antibiotics from a pharmacist without a prescription. I know, nurse practitioners can prescribe in some states, but all must be under the umbrella of a physician and many can't prescribe narcotics.
Kill your patient? The AMA vigorously defends its members from liability. They are deeply involved with the process from undergraduate through residency. They have the political power to get it done and prevent outsourcing in their ranks. But it's true, that profession isn't what it used to be either, although they certainly have outpaced us in recent years.
I do think the ALPA should get involved in the process, even if it's just an ancillary role.
11-12-2012, 05:58 PM
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On a different note;
Congratulations to the new reps in Council 20! Many challenges ahead...when are there not...
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Congratulations to the new reps in Council 20! Many challenges ahead...when are there not...
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11-12-2012, 06:02 PM
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Don't be so quick to jump on the defense sailing.
11-12-2012, 06:11 PM
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To tag on Buzz, I have long wondered why; if the RLA is such a limfac on getting our agenda done, why doesn't ALPA press the flesh in DC to get it updated or deleted for our benefit.
Alternately, is it even one of ALPA's agenda items to get out from under the RLA?
There I go being a negateer again.
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Alternately, is it even one of ALPA's agenda items to get out from under the RLA?
There I go being a negateer again.
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