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Old 11-07-2012, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Fellas, can we save the drama, today? Just because one person won and your guys didn't, doesn't mean the world is going to come to an end. Our planes will still fly. Humans will still walk the earth on two legs.

If we really want to kick butt, we should find a way for Delta to hire Nate Silver.
The problem with that is we've had an opportunity to see what happens when you stick your head in the sand (see Europe). When the bill comes due it is not a pretty sight. But hey, I see your way of looking at it: pretend it doesn't matter who would have won and the end result would have been the same...enjoy the ride until the wake up call comes. Votes have consequences, and unfortunately we've chosen poorly.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
What do you guys consider a better seat for a 4 hour DH to/from training, emergency exit row or economy plus or comfort or whatever the hell its called?

Thanks Scoop
Whichever isn't the middle seat...


I go for the EC seat if its available, some jets have the winged headrest, and you do get more recline in addition to the extra legroom...

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Old 11-07-2012, 06:20 PM
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I don't particularly care if the public has sympathy, I'm more wondering if the White House will finally give a nod and let the NMB accept a request for Proffer of Arbitration.
Well, that's the thing. I think of Clinton back with American in 97, which was after his re-election as well when he'd have nothing to gain or lose politically. I really just don't think politicians want the mess of a major airline strike even if they're pro union. Sometimes it's not about reelections but headlines and headaches. Just imho though.

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Rate wise I have heard the same thing...

.....but what if their min day is 6:00 and they get the same for vacation, training, and HD only days with a 17% DC? (I seriously doubt that, just sayin'!)

Scope and work rules notwithstanding of course......
Ironically had a UAL 744 guy on the jumpseat tonight. Very long and interesting conversation about their "mess." He said they're anger towards the CAL MEC, their own MEC and the company has many of them willing to go the UsAir route. We'll see.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:30 PM
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You know with all of the warnings about the pending fiscal cliff, I will say this, I'm glad our management team seems hell bent on ensuring we're profitable even in a recession. A CBO warning of an early 2013 deep recession? I don't know, but they'd be in better position than everyone else, imho.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
...and the winner is no friend of our country.
Purple, the planets have collided. We agree!
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
Ok I think it is time to enforce the TOS! No more politics because I was about to say something that would have made way too much sense and made people actually think about reality and how small their minds are about a lot of things politics and how ..... oh well.... let us just get back to being doom and gloom.......
C'mon FIIG, you know I love ya. Common sense? Look at our economy and the markets. Common cents says we are sucking big time. More of the same? I sincerely hope not. But, I honestly think we're screwed. Doom and gloom? Yep, we've had plenty
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:42 PM
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Not a political post, but a HISTORY lesson instead:

“Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and given him triumphal processions. Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the “new wonderful good society” which shall now be Rome’s, interpreted to mean "more money, more ease, more security, and more living fatly at the expense of the industrious".”


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Old 11-07-2012, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Not a political post, but a HISTORY lesson instead:

“Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and given him triumphal processions. Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the “new wonderful good society” which shall now be Rome’s, interpreted to mean "more money, more ease, more security, and more living fatly at the expense of the industrious".”


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Bravo. Which is precisely why great civilizations fall. Cicero was the man!
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:49 PM
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I'm curious what the CO2 emissions by the metric ton are on our airplanes? Like say an MD-88?

Because if we're charged $20 per ton and that rate rises 6% per year, what would that cost us?

Obama May Levy Carbon Tax to Cut U.S. Deficit, HSBC Says - The Washington Post, November 7, 2012
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:11 PM
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Um... the NYT's Nate Silver's model is based on polls. If the polls are accurate, he's accurate. If they're not, he's not. Garbage in, garbage out.

Turns out, the polls were. He got 50 out of 50, but you know who got 49 out of 50 without having to do anything more than an @average formula? The real clear politics average of the electoral college with no toss ups.

RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map No Toss Ups

Same in 2008, Silver 49 out of 50, RCP average 48 out of 50 missing on the two closest toss up states.

So before you award him with ESP, hand it to the inventor of the rather pedestrian formula: @average. Which has a tendency, on average, to be more accurate and far more clear than Nate Silver's hidden probability formula.

Now the guy who picks right without ever doing a calculation, that'd be ESP.
Well, it's not that easy. He actually does a pretty sophisticated analysis.

Methodology - NYTimes.com
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