Originally Posted by Check Essential

UGH.
I hope this is just a one day relaxation of the APC ban on politics.

The AE closes tomorrow. Can we talk about how bad its gonna be?

Originally Posted by shiznit

Let's turn this energy towards "pilot stuff":

Do any of you think the lack of "re-election threat" that exists now because the election is over will give the UCAL pilots some leverage and a release if the latest offer gets turned down by a large margin (Provided it ever makes it past the MEC's)?

I'd like to see UCAL surpass the DAL PWA by a solid margin, so as to set up the "upward ladder" since we have such a short term deal!

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by shiznit

Let's turn this energy towards "pilot stuff":

Do any of you think the lack of "re-election threat" that exists now because the election is over will give the UCAL pilots some leverage and a release if the latest offer gets turned down by a large margin (Provided it ever makes it past the MEC's)?

I'd like to see UCAL surpass the DAL PWA by a solid margin, so as to set up the "upward ladder" since we have such a short term deal!

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by scambo1

As of a week ago, the UCAL deal was 9% below the DAL deal.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

I'm not sure but i don't think ex military and college educated union members wearing white collars get much sympathy with strikes. kind of on par with nfl or nba player strikes. i think they will be ignored.

now that the election is done we are hearing about carbon taxes. so with huge profits made off nontaxable bag fees, why do i feel add if we are going to be a target?

God save the 88!

Originally Posted by shiznit

Rate wise I have heard the same thing...

.....but what if their min day is 6:00 and they get the same for vacation, training, and HD only days with a 17% DC? (I seriously doubt that, just sayin'!)




Scope and work rules notwithstanding of course......

Originally Posted by flyallnite

Well for whatever it's worth...

Election Over: What it means to Airlines industry




Chris BagleyStaff Writer- Triangle Business Journal Email
Analysts said Wednesday that Pres. Barack Obama’s reelection may settle several questions that had been hanging over transportation companies, including the possibility that a Mitt Romney administration might have pushed to eliminate a cap on foreign ownership of airlines.
Federal law has capped foreign ownership since 1926, when the aim was to foster what was then a fledgling industry. The original 49 percent cap was later tightened to a 25 percent cap that applies only to voting shares.
Several proposals to relax the cap have been floated in Congress over the years, including a Bush-era proposal to move the cap back to 49 percent.
While Romney himself said little about such proposals, people in the industry looked for him to push for a lifting or elimination of the cap. Such expectations were widespread, said Bob Mann, an airline-industry consultant in Port Washington, N.Y.
“The argument is that (the cap) limits investment,” Mann said.
“The counter to the argument is ‘Why would anyone be interested?’,” he added, only half in jest. The industry has been in choppy skies since 2001, with multiple recessions and rising fuel costs. Midway Airlines, for example, which was based at Raleigh-Durham International Airport, dissolved in 2002. Nearly all major airlines to survive have done so with help from bankruptcy reorganizations, and the industry has consolidated considerably in attempts to gain pricing power vis-a-vis suppliers and passengers.
Shares of Delta Air Lines (NYSEAL), the nation’s largest airline and the second-largest at RDU by passenger counts, fell 3 percent to $9.76. RDU leader Southwest Airlines Co. (NYSE: LUV) fell 1 percent to $9.03.
Pinning changes in stock prices to any one event is often a tricky game, of course, and aviation wasn’t the only industry trading lower today. The bellwether S&P 500 index was 2 percent lower in early afternoon trading at 1,398 points.
Industry consultant Gerald FitzGerald, a former director of aviation for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, acknowledged Romney’s leanings but noted that such proposals have been bouncing around in Congress for years, with no actual changes.
“I see such gridlock in Washington,” Fitzgerald said. “They’ve made it clear up until now that they’re not going to do very much” for airlines.
That state of affairs is unlikely to change following Tuesday’s election, he said.

Originally Posted by newKnow

Fellas, can we save the drama, today? Just because one person won and your guys didn't, doesn't mean the world is going to come to an end. Our planes will still fly. Humans will still walk the earth on two legs.

If we really want to kick butt, we should find a way for Delta to hire Nate Silver.