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Old 11-07-2012, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Too Tall
I stand corrected there are 7 not 8 , but that is till 3 more than target. SC that extend unto the 8th are listed on the right side not the left, those aren't even targeted. That is a lot for a category that has very little flying and reserve utilization.
I just looked again. For 7 Nov there are now 3 pilots on Short Call today in the ATL DC9B category according to DBMS. They have one pilot listed for the 8th so far on short call. I would cut and paste the list but it includes personal data. There are two pilots on short call in the 4 day availability grouping and 1 pilot in the 3 day.

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Old 11-07-2012, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
No kidding, I can't believe people think it would be so drastically different if the other guy got elected. We still have a dysfunctional House and Senate that can't compromise on anything. What we need is for those idiots to realize that compromise is the only way anything will get done and not to just obstruct because they can't get everything they want.
I don't see any coherence in the electorate choosing to add Democrstic seats to the Senate and more Republican seats to the House. If the country dislikes Congressional gridlock, why did the vote turn out this way? Wouldn't it make more sense to have Congress be one party or another in order to pass some kind of legislation?
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by NWARet
Are these the depressed markets you refer to?

Jan. 20, 2009............... Yesterday
Dow 7949..................... 13192
Nasdaq 1440 ................. 2681
S&P 805 ....................... 1427
The bills will be coming due shortly. But by all means, please buy... and buy big, because with free health care and gubbamint retirement packages in place there's nothing to lose... right?
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
Whatever economics could have happened had the results been different does not matter if you don't have a job. The guy who would have allowed cabatage and foreign ownership and was very anti-labor was just shown the door.
Mmmmmmkay. So please tell me how the other guy, who really really wants to hammer the evil banks, is gonna force them to free up the money supply? In other words, where are people gonna get the bucks to buy those over priced American made electric cars that will save the planet? There will be no incentive for those same evil banks to give you or me a loan to buy those cars, and as a result there will be no need for those auto companies to keep those same people employed, and THOSE people are the ones that buy airline tickets. Cabotage is OBE now...

Doomsday scenario?

Maybe, but when socialism strangled the Soviet Union, the workers figured that making one big nail was easier than making a thousand of the correct sized ones. Then.... they went bankrupt.

I want to figure out how to get MY share of that free stuff now....
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
the real question is how we split the tab for the horrible bender we've all been on.
A few pay... many do not.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
No kidding, I can't believe people think it would be so drastically different if the other guy got elected. We still have a dysfunctional House and Senate that can't compromise on anything. What we need is for those idiots to realize that compromise is the only way anything will get done and not to just obstruct because they can't get everything they want.
The real definition of compromise and the one espoused by the chosen one is vastly different.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I just looked again. For 7 Nov there are now 3 pilots on Short Call today in the ATL DC9B category according to DBMS. They have one pilot listed for the 8th so far on short call. I would cut and paste the list but it includes personal data. There are two pilots on short call in the 4 day availability grouping and 1 pilot in the 3 day.
Not going to argue with you, but I still count 6 SC on the reserve availability list for today, one that was on SC got a trip and has been removed would have made 7, and for tomorrow I there are a 7, that is a little closer to the target of 5. You are counting the SC listed under the pilots name that start in one day and end in the next correct? Not that its a big deal just wish they would make the projection align more with their actual practice of assignment.

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Old 11-07-2012, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Generally, if spent well, government spending to improve GDP is a good thing. The interstate highway system serves as a good example of a very expensive project which improved America's GDP, not just then, but going forward. Projects Mercury, Gemini and Apollo resulted in technological innovations and leadership that still pays some dividends.

I entirely agree with your concerns regarding inflation. However, thus far we have not seen a great deal of inflation thus far. Deflation, followed by inflation, scares me. While inflation is a slow thief, deflation comes with the speed of a fire.

You have to consider the various sources of the money supply and where it goes. While the Fed creates money, so does leverage at your local bank. If you deposit a dollar and they lend dollar, that's two dollars. If a home decreases in value by 50% and that equity is no longer used, or if I save a dollar and it isn't lent, that's money out of circulation.

Until the political parties go after entitlements and fundamentally restructure our tax code BOTH parties are going to tax and spend in a very similar fashion. The vast majority of spending goes to entitlements which would be spent the exact same way with either party.

I did not think Romney could beat Obama within the current management of the GOP. Overall the Republican party needs reform to win. Obama's campaign manager said he was worried by Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry because either of those candidates' policies would have appealed to the Latino vote (who voted for Obama 72%). Instead Romney's logic got pushed aside to the point he sounded more like Carl Rove and less and less like himself.

IMHO, Romney's own staff and the Republican party at large cost him an election he easily could have won. He was persuaded by "experts" who gave him bad advice. That's another post I guess on another forum ... but the Republicans have to consider the reasons for their loss and perhaps someone needs to take Mitch McConnell behind the proverbial woodshed. ... as a result of his obstructions the Senate took a real swerve to the left ... .

Spoken like a true Keyensian. Socialism does not work in the long run. In the short run.. yes... but not for the long haul. Thank God the House is still controlled by the other party. Now the chosen one has to compromise.. or gridlock will ensue... which is fine with me.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Mmmmmmkay. So please tell me how the other guy, who really really wants to hammer the evil banks, is gonna force them to free up the money supply? In other words, where are people gonna get the bucks to buy those over priced American made electric cars that will save the planet? There will be no incentive for those same evil banks to give you or me a loan to buy those cars, and as a result there will be no need for those auto companies to keep those same people employed, and THOSE people are the ones that buy airline tickets. Cabotage is OBE now...

Doomsday scenario?

Maybe, but when socialism strangled the Soviet Union, the workers figured that making one big nail was easier than making a thousand of the correct sized ones. Then.... they went bankrupt.

I want to figure out how to get MY share of that free stuff now....
There were two opportunities to get the "free" cheese.

Tarp 1 provided money to bailout construction companies with leveraged house inventory...I coulda encumbered all my inventory and gotten bailed, but I chose to play by the rules.

Tarp 1+2 provided "grant cheese" to green companies - established and startup...Yes that's right, you could write a business plan to produce solar panels and they would have given you money to launch your super dream green company. This was also further incentivised by giving state governments money to "grant" to green companies in their states...So, in the great central planning office in DC, specific states were chosen to be green industry states and if you wanted to be a CEO, all you had to do was write it up and send it in. Yippee frikken skippee.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
There is also the logic that poor people spend money, while wealthier people save money. Income redistribution has a stimulative effect on consumption.
One of the biggest failings of Keynesian economics in their history (and they have a lot of failings). They can't comprehend that saving, unless its literally cash under a matress which it hardly ever is, goes directly into fractional reserve banking providing the capital to invest and build the things people consume in the first place and has a far greater multiplying effect on over all money velocity and activity than one time stimulus or forced consumer spending.

That said, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken poop by focusing on supply or demand side alone, especially when the monetary system it all rides on is built on a house of cards in a hurricane. The system needs a free and open market to correct itself and it hasn't had that in quite some time. With the taxpayers on the hook for another failing stimulus program, corportisim is not only alive and well its on steroids and the "soft landing" is going to put the wheels through the wings when reality finally sets in.
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