Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-06-2012, 11:39 PM
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Ezactly................ You think getting a loan now is hard...
11-07-2012, 03:05 AM
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Are these the depressed markets you refer to?
Jan. 20, 2009............... Yesterday
Dow 7949..................... 13192
Nasdaq 1440 ................. 2681
S&P 805 ....................... 1427
11-07-2012, 03:08 AM
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The 717's were not coming based on price. It does not matter if they were free you had to have a place to fly the aircraft. You needed space in your overall system. Without that headroom the company would not have purchased the aircraft. The 717's are not growth aircraft for the Delta system. They are growth aircraft for the mainline. That is a key point you are missing.
11-07-2012, 03:37 AM
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Let me try my hand at "apolitical": no matter who won, we remain on track for recovery into next year, we still have huge issues in front of us, and the real question is how we split the tab for the horrible bender we've all been on.
11-07-2012, 03:41 AM
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is a higher gdp due to government spending a good thing Bar?
and if your savings are lost due to inflation thanks to QE, how is that good?
I'll put it this way, i had three major expenditures that i was planning on doing late this year and next, I'm shelving them all for now.
and if your savings are lost due to inflation thanks to QE, how is that good?
I'll put it this way, i had three major expenditures that i was planning on doing late this year and next, I'm shelving them all for now.
11-07-2012, 03:50 AM
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The 717's were not coming based on price. It does not matter if they were free you had to have a place to fly the aircraft. You needed space in your overall system. Without that headroom the company would not have purchased the aircraft. The 717's are not growth aircraft for the Delta system. They are growth aircraft for the mainline. That is a key point you are missing.
If the 717s are mainline growth aircraft, I will buy you the multi-course Greek dinner of your choice at the Lucky Boy in 5 towns. Until that is proven, I will remain a skeptic.
What you say above makes perfect sense, but when Lucy has a football...
11-07-2012, 04:17 AM
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11-07-2012, 04:24 AM
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is a higher gdp due to government spending a good thing Bar?
and if your savings are lost due to inflation thanks to QE, how is that good?
I'll put it this way, i had three major expenditures that i was planning on doing late this year and next, I'm shelving them all for now.
and if your savings are lost due to inflation thanks to QE, how is that good?
I'll put it this way, i had three major expenditures that i was planning on doing late this year and next, I'm shelving them all for now.
I entirely agree with your concerns regarding inflation. However, thus far we have not seen a great deal of inflation thus far. Deflation, followed by inflation, scares me. While inflation is a slow thief, deflation comes with the speed of a fire.
You have to consider the various sources of the money supply and where it goes. While the Fed creates money, so does leverage at your local bank. If you deposit a dollar and they lend dollar, that's two dollars. If a home decreases in value by 50% and that equity is no longer used, or if I save a dollar and it isn't lent, that's money out of circulation.
Until the political parties go after entitlements and fundamentally restructure our tax code BOTH parties are going to tax and spend in a very similar fashion. The vast majority of spending goes to entitlements which would be spent the exact same way with either party.
I did not think Romney could beat Obama within the current management of the GOP. Overall the Republican party needs reform to win. Obama's campaign manager said he was worried by Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry because either of those candidates' policies would have appealed to the Latino vote (who voted for Obama 72%). Instead Romney's logic got pushed aside to the point he sounded more like Carl Rove and less and less like himself.
IMHO, Romney's own staff and the Republican party at large cost him an election he easily could have won. He was persuaded by "experts" who gave him bad advice. That's another post I guess on another forum ... but the Republicans have to consider the reasons for their loss and perhaps someone needs to take Mitch McConnell behind the proverbial woodshed. ... as a result of his obstructions the Senate took a real swerve to the left ... .
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11-07-2012, 05:09 AM
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I stand corrected there are 7 not 8 , but that is till 3 more than target. SC that extend unto the 8th are listed on the right side not the left, those aren't even targeted. That is a lot for a category that has very little flying and reserve utilization.
11-07-2012, 05:14 AM
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No kidding, I can't believe people think it would be so drastically different if the other guy got elected. We still have a dysfunctional House and Senate that can't compromise on anything. What we need is for those idiots to realize that compromise is the only way anything will get done and not to just obstruct because they can't get everything they want.
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