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You'll never see a C-Section scar if they're wearing trench coats.
Think about it.
Think about it.
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The number as your mentioned could have gone to 255 76 seaters. The new contract restricts this to 223. It would have been fairly easy for the company to manipulate the fleet numbers to hit the total targets for more 76 seaters. They could have retained more nines/757's in the fleet and even brought aircraft out of the bone yard for a few months. With the 737's coming they could have easily added more 76 seaters then dumped the mainline aircraft. A pump and dump is not possible with the new contract. In addition the DCI fleet will have a hard cap of 450 airframes down from over 680 airframes not long ago. Once at 450 all future growth must go to the mainline. Again quite different from the old contract.
I guess the reason I have a really hard time with 76 seat flying increasing is that I've seen it up close for the last 5+ years, really seen what that aircraft is capable of, and feel in my heart that it truly ought to be done by mainline pilots. It's vexing when those in power seem to be unconcerned that this flying was taken away from them under duress, when they express little interest in recapturing it, and when they trade it away for other things. It really does make me wonder if there is any real line in the sand, anything my union won't do to sell out my generation. I honestly hope I'm wrong about ALPA, that my cynicism about them is myopia brought on from where I've been in the industry, and their strategy turns out to be brilliant in hindsight.
Sailing, I've meant to ask you this a long time & never got around to it, what with us always butting heads on here...what boat do you sail?
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As an amateur Ob/Gyn, I can state that is too short to be a C-
Section scar. More like an "I was just sitting down" tummy line, like the one through her belly button.
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Besides, some of us non-Delta pilots have already paid admission:
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I recall this being pretty extensively wargamed on here during the TA vote, and yeah I guess if they'd retained a bunch of DC9s/75s while taking delivery of 737s they could have pulled a "pump and dump," though they also would have had to get rid of 70-seaters as the 70+76 seat cap would remain unchanged. Fair 'nuff. Don't get me wrong, there are aspects of the new contract I really like. The fact that 450 is a hard cap and can't be increased is one. I like that a greater percentage of flying is done by DAL pilots. I hope this trend increases in future contracts.
I guess the reason I have a really hard time with 76 seat flying increasing is that I've seen it up close for the last 5+ years, really seen what that aircraft is capable of, and feel in my heart that it truly ought to be done by mainline pilots. It's vexing when those in power seem to be unconcerned that this flying was taken away from them under duress, when they express little interest in recapturing it, and when they trade it away for other things. It really does make me wonder if there is any real line in the sand, anything my union won't do to sell out my generation. I honestly hope I'm wrong about ALPA, that my cynicism about them is myopia brought on from where I've been in the industry, and their strategy turns out to be brilliant in hindsight.
Sailing, I've meant to ask you this a long time & never got around to it, what with us always butting heads on here...what boat do you sail?
I guess the reason I have a really hard time with 76 seat flying increasing is that I've seen it up close for the last 5+ years, really seen what that aircraft is capable of, and feel in my heart that it truly ought to be done by mainline pilots. It's vexing when those in power seem to be unconcerned that this flying was taken away from them under duress, when they express little interest in recapturing it, and when they trade it away for other things. It really does make me wonder if there is any real line in the sand, anything my union won't do to sell out my generation. I honestly hope I'm wrong about ALPA, that my cynicism about them is myopia brought on from where I've been in the industry, and their strategy turns out to be brilliant in hindsight.
Sailing, I've meant to ask you this a long time & never got around to it, what with us always butting heads on here...what boat do you sail?
As far as trading scope for other improvements scope at Delta has always been the very last item settled in each contract. Pay as a example had long been set in stone in the 01 contract before scope was complete. The recent TA was much the same. The company wanted larger aircraft at DCI and fought tooth and nail to get that. They really wanted the E190. They offered more money in raises to get the E190 at DCI. The negotiating committee turned them down and we kept the limit at 76 taking lower pay in the process. They structured the scope changes to produce 1000 additional jobs that will only impact the bottom 50 percent of the list. I can go on and on but am out of time.
I sail anything I can. I have been involved in sailing for both pleasure and business for 20 years. It was my plan B when Delta was close to shutting the doors to take care of my family.
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Point made, and if jungle was merely asking about potential hiring........ instead of spouting unasked for and ill-informed commentary on the Delta Pilots ability to decide what is best for themselves and the organization that works hard every day to improve the lives and working conditions of Delta Pilots.
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