Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-06-2012, 12:50 PM
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11-06-2012, 12:51 PM
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I tried explaining this to my date the other night, That you don't buy a ticket on us, you buy a ticket on big D and end up on us. It was met with a blank stare and the question "They can do that?" and "How do I know I'm on a feeder?". The public is ignorant to the fact that we are not mainline.
Mom: My son is a Captain for Southwest
Me: No, I fly for Atlantic Southeast Airlines
Mom: Eastern Air Lines?
Me: No, ASA, we are a subsidiary of SkyWest
Mom: Yeah, that's what I said, Southwest
Me: No. Sky West. SkyWest flies for Delta
Mom: Are you a Mormon?
Me: No. what?
Mom: You know, the Temple Garment, Moroni ...
Me: What? SkyWest is based in Salt Lake City, but they fly for Delta
Mom: Never mind ... so you fly for Delta?
Me: Yes, I mean No, (ah heck, might as well ... )
11-06-2012, 12:59 PM
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The total number of 76 seats jets in the category you mentioned was reduced in the new contract not increased as you claim. The company can have more total 70 and 76 seat jets combined but few 76 seat large RJ's then the old contract potentially allowed. The number of allowed 76 seaters did not increase by 70 airframes as you post.
It's easy to grin
when your ship comes in
and you've got the stock market beat.
But the man worthwhile
is the man who can smile
when his shorts are too tight in the seat.
11-06-2012, 01:03 PM
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The total number of 76 seats jets in the category you mentioned was reduced in the new contract not increased as you claim. The company can have more total 70 and 76 seat jets combined but few 76 seat large RJ's then the old contract potentially allowed. The number of allowed 76 seaters did not increase by 70 airframes as you post.
11-06-2012, 01:11 PM
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Wait a second. You guys have been saying for the last 10 pages or so that DAL wouldn't be getting 717s without this TA. Now you're turning around and saying the number of permitted 76 seaters would've increased beyond 153? How exactly was that going to happen if you weren't getting 717s!?
11-06-2012, 01:28 PM
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Wait a second. You guys have been saying for the last 10 pages or so that DAL wouldn't be getting 717s without this TA. Now you're turning around and saying the number of permitted 76 seaters would've increased beyond 153? How exactly was that going to happen if you weren't getting 717s!?
Someday you'll be here; hopefully sooner than later, and probably thanks to the 717's coming late next year - you're welcome btw. When that happens you'll get to vote as a Delta pilot. Until that time comes, I suggest you save yourself the inevitable ulcer and take a break from this ****
11-06-2012, 01:33 PM
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Pure math.... Less DCI jets, Less DCI seats, Less DCI pilots...
A While back the DAL pilots we described as screwing the RJ pilots..... never quite figured that one out... And I was a 10yr RJ pilot !!
Less Jets at DCI and more at mainline is always better! Yes others in the ranks have a difference of opinion but thats fine it is in our own house. We will work it out!
A While back the DAL pilots we described as screwing the RJ pilots..... never quite figured that one out... And I was a 10yr RJ pilot !!
Less Jets at DCI and more at mainline is always better! Yes others in the ranks have a difference of opinion but thats fine it is in our own house. We will work it out!
11-06-2012, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun 
The total number of 76 seats jets in the category you mentioned was reduced in the new contract not increased as you claim. The company can have more total 70 and 76 seat jets combined but few 76 seat large RJ's then the old contract potentially allowed. The number of allowed 76 seaters did not increase by 70 airframes as you post.
The total number of 76 seats jets in the category you mentioned was reduced in the new contract not increased as you claim. The company can have more total 70 and 76 seat jets combined but few 76 seat large RJ's then the old contract potentially allowed. The number of allowed 76 seaters did not increase by 70 airframes as you post.
The number of permitted 76-seaters under the old contract, post grievance settlement, was 153. It is now 223, an increase of 70. The only way sailingfun squeaks his argument through is his use of the word "potentially," referring to the mainline size trigger that could result in the number of permitted 76 seaters increasing to 255, if the company also got rid of 70 seaters on a 1:1 basis. DAL was roughly 40 airframes short of the mainline size trigger, so in the real world the only way the number of permitted 76-seaters was increasing under the old contract was if the 717s (or similar narrowbody growth aircraft) showed up on property - something sailing & friends have been arguing for the last 10 pages wouldn't have happened without the new contract.
11-06-2012, 01:47 PM
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11-06-2012, 01:51 PM
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Is ACL dead? Where's he been?
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