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Old 10-29-2012, 09:20 AM
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hey all...

so I got a FRA white slip out of JFK for tomorrow. Was just notified that the first leg has been cancelled due to the effects from the hurricane. Does anyone know what this means for me for the rest of the time I'm supposed to be on the trip? Will I essentially be "on call" for the duration? Also just got a call saying my schedule has been "relocked" - any idea what this means?

Edit - I just checked my sched, and the white slip has been 23K'd. I'm not sure what this means.

Thanks everyone.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
The next bid will be in early 2013- that will include the 717s an hopefully will have some hiring.

Great..... Thanks!
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:31 AM
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What, do I look like Jim Cantore? You think I like standing in the rain at work? Open the DOOR!
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:33 AM
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What, do I look like Jim Cantore? You think I like standing in the rain at work? Open the DOOR!
He must be drunk. He did a walkaround in the rain???
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Gahhh.... Well, it's about as expected. Time to figure out where I want to go on a displacement. Those 40 ATL767Bs are senior dudes.
It is interesting to see how network deals with the loss of 7 or 8 757's. I figured the 320 and 737 would back fill. Instead, it appears more than a little "757 domestic flying" is bypassing both of those jets and going to the MD90's.

The 737NG utilization is probably already maxed out.

The loss of the 767 in Atlanta is going to be painful. Wonder if the 717 will end up senior to the MD88. Lots of people are talking about bidding it.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nwa757dtw


Edit - I just checked my sched, and the white slip has been 23K'd. I'm not sure what this means.

Thanks everyone.
Basically, you're effectively on short call for a period of time after the original sign-in time--can't remember the exact times, so I don't want to give you bad info. check the PWA Section 23.k for specifics.

You get paid for the original WS if they don't use you.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
It is interesting to see how network deals with the loss of 7 or 8 757's. I figured the 320 and 737 would back fill. Instead, it appears more than a little "757 domestic flying" is bypassing both of those jets and going to the MD90's.

The 737NG utilization is probably already maxed out.

The loss of the 767 in Atlanta is going to be painful. Wonder if the 717 will end up senior to the MD88. Lots of people are talking about bidding it.
No kidding. I dont get the under utilization of the little bus. Not to mention, even after all the retirements off the big bus, they are still overstaffed??

That 40 767B displacement out of ATL is going to be murder... most if not all of those guys can hold A, though... so hopefully they go and grab one of those positions and don't cascade down too bad.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I didn't realize 320 FO's were so overstaffed. 15 displaments in DTW, 22 in MSP, & 20 in SLC. Jeez.
Yep, but hopefully most of those will come off the top:

DTW:
Losing 15 320FO :
GAINING 16 777/744 CA slots
. . . . . . . .2 DC9 CA slots
. . . . . . . 13 777/744 FO slots
. . . . . . . .2 DC9 FO slots.
Net increase of 18 slots

MSP:
Losing 22 320 FO seats
No gains, but the DTW CA slots may offset if commuters bid to DTW

SLC:
Losing 20 320 FO seats
. . . . . 20 73N/7ER CA seats in LAX/SEA

It will be interesting for sure. Overall good news for once.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Yep, but hopefully most of those will come off the top:

DTW:
Losing 15 320FO :
GAINING 16 777/744 CA slots
. . . . . . . .2 DC9 CA slots
. . . . . . . 13 777/744 FO slots
. . . . . . . .2 DC9 FO slots.
Net increase of 18 slots

MSP:
Losing 22 320 FO seats
No gains, but the DTW CA slots may offset if commuters bid to DTW

SLC:
Losing 20 320 FO seats
. . . . . 20 73N/7ER CA seats in LAX/SEA

It will be interesting for sure. Overall good news for once.
I wouldn't call this good news- it's marginal at best. All widebody displacements in ATL with almost all narrowbody vacancies.

SLC should be a good thing with west coast commuters hopefully being able to to get back out there.

MSP is definitely negative- their demographics are similar to ATL with a very low amount of commuters.

DTW is overall positive with narrowbody displacements and growth on the widebody side.


Remember, the big positive bid is the next one! ( )
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:56 AM
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With my research on AA, it should would be nice if the union had published the FPL data like the resolutions that were passed a number of times told them to do.

With AG, it was easy to verify that he has a captain award. Here, the union's own lack of transparency is making it difficult to verify (or discount).
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