Originally Posted by shiznit

You see a pilot making $1,803 LESS in 2013 with the new agreement.

I see that same pilot making $13,549 MORE in 2013 with the agreement.

Was the PS change worth it?

Originally Posted by groundstop

Instead of "public math" you should have called it "public spin". The profit sharing change was NOT worth it, because we shouldn't have given a single concession in this contract. ALPA saw differently on that matter.

Originally Posted by gloopy

They do, as the public doesn't really even know who they are flying on with their "Delta" ticket. But that's part of the problem, not the solution. We need much stricter language to control this false advertising than we have. That was brought up by some during the last negotiations but little was done about it.

Tiny little "operated by" stickers aren't sufficient. I'd be in favor of contract language forbidding a common paint job and forcing all itineraries that don't touch mainline to generate tickets with exclusively the OAL name(s) and logo(s) with "Delta" only being in tiny fine print with asterisks and ball flags leading you to the back of the ticket to figure that part out.

I'd also insist on prominent PA's that emphasise the OAL carrier exclusively. As for uniforms, we don't want ACMI cheap labor providers being seamless for the customer. We want the opposite. So WRT uniforms, its a good thing that ours is distinctive and, honestly, better by quite a bit compared to most of the fake virtual airlines our company is allowed to "partner" with without using our pilots.

Originally Posted by Elvis90

Delta Is No. 1 as Profitable Air Cargo Beats U.S. Peers - Bloomberg

Delta is on a five-month streak of gains in cargo traffic, bolstering the bottom line ahead of tomorrow’s quarterly earnings report. The cargo operations produce $1 billion in annual sales and profit margins that have topped 50 percent because goods are flown on jets with fare-paying passengers.

Originally Posted by Jughead

...and since we're complaining about uniforms - if you're going to wear the coat, which we all will be in about a week, please button it. Nothing looks more bizarre than a double-breasted coat flopping around open.

Unless you let your hat ride on top of your suitcase, with the tie pulled down a couple of inches - then it's a good look.

Originally Posted by Elvis90

Delta Is No. 1 as Profitable Air Cargo Beats U.S. Peers - Bloomberg

Delta is on a five-month streak of gains in cargo traffic, bolstering the bottom line ahead of tomorrow’s quarterly earnings report. The cargo operations produce $1 billion in annual sales and profit margins that have topped 50 percent because goods are flown on jets with fare-paying passengers.

Originally Posted by TenYearsGone

I overheard a conversation recently, although I smirked and wanted to discount it as just purely speculative, I wanted to share:

"Delta wants to shift (in the future) the 747-400s to dedicated cargo airplanes"

This is what I heard. Rumor, BS, fact, etc.? You decide

TEN

Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright

And replace them with 747-8s? I like it!

Unfortunately it doesn't make a lot of sense to convert the 4x4 to cargo after spending so much money installing the flat bed seats.

Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright

Unfortunately it doesn't make a lot of sense to convert the 4x4 to cargo after spending so much money installing the flat bed seats.

Originally Posted by Thrust Normal

Which is exactly why it'll happen.