Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-15-2012, 05:44 PM
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Pre Election 2008 on long ER flight with a guy who I really enjoyed flying with but...
FTB's Captain: "So what do you want to talk about, sex, politics or religion?"
FTB: "Uh..... well, I'm alright if we just, um, stare out the window."
FTB's Captain: "Alright, religion. There is no God."
FTB: "This is probably why we shouldn't do this."
FTB's Captain: "Okay, how about politics? George Bush belongs in the Hague."
FTB: "Yeah, I don't agree with that."
FTB's Captain: "Sex? So my sons girlfriend has got a nice [redacted]. I really enjoy looking at her. And I know they're out there in the car having sex. I told him, go upstairs for crying out loud. Treat her like a lady."
FTB: "..." (eyes blinking rapidly)
Yes, I shortened it, it was actually only a slightly longer conversation. The dude was a mess, but I enjoyed that trip.FTB: "Uh..... well, I'm alright if we just, um, stare out the window."
FTB's Captain: "Alright, religion. There is no God."
FTB: "This is probably why we shouldn't do this."
FTB's Captain: "Okay, how about politics? George Bush belongs in the Hague."
FTB: "Yeah, I don't agree with that."
FTB's Captain: "Sex? So my sons girlfriend has got a nice [redacted]. I really enjoy looking at her. And I know they're out there in the car having sex. I told him, go upstairs for crying out loud. Treat her like a lady."
FTB: "..." (eyes blinking rapidly)
Dad of the year right there! Wow.
10-15-2012, 06:08 PM
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10-15-2012, 06:51 PM
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Kittinger was shot down on May 11, 1972, just before the end of his third tour of duty. While flying an F-4D, USAF Serial No. 66-0230, with his Weapons Systems Officer, 1st Lieutenant William J. Reich, Lieutenant Colonel Kittinger was leading a flight of Phantoms approximately five miles northwest of Thai Nguyen, North Vietnam, when they were engaged by a flight of MiG-21 fighter planes. Kittinger and his wingman were chasing a MiG-21 when Kittinger's Phantom II was hit by an air-to-air missile that damaged the fighter's starboard wing and set the airplane on fire. Kittinger and Reich ejected a few miles from Thai Nguyen and were soon captured and taken to the city of Hanoi. During the same engagement, Kittinger's wingman, Captain S. E. Nichols, shot down the MiG-21 they had been chasing.[14]
Kittinger and Reich spent 11 months as prisoners of war (POWs) in the "Hanoi Hilton" prison. Kittinger was put through "rope torture" soon after his arrival at the POW compound and this made a lasting impression on him. Kittinger was the senior ranking officer (SRO) among the newer prisoners of war (those captured after 1969), and he was described as having been in conflict with some of his fellow prisoners over his leadership style. He tried to keep the aggressive junior officers under his command from active resistance to their captors on the basis that it might result in more torture for the POWs. In Kittinger's autobiography "Come Up and Get Me" (by Kittinger and Craig Ryan), Kittinger defended himself as being very serious about maintaining the military structure he considered essential to survival. Kittinger and Reich were returned to American hands on March 28, 1973, and they continued their Air Force careers, with Kittinger promoted to full colonel shortly thereafter.
Just my opinion, but I think he's pretty much entitled to whatever he damn well pleases...
Lots of people called Jim Stockdale a senile old idiot too. I doubt any of them had any firsthand accounts of what like in the Hanoi Hilton was like either.
Last edited by FmrFreightDog; 10-15-2012 at 07:08 PM.
10-15-2012, 06:55 PM
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Pre Election 2008 on long ER flight with a guy who I really enjoyed flying with but...
FTB's Captain: "So what do you want to talk about, sex, politics or religion?"
FTB: "Uh..... well, I'm alright if we just, um, stare out the window."
FTB's Captain: "Alright, religion. There is no God."
FTB: "This is probably why we shouldn't do this."
FTB's Captain: "Okay, how about politics? George Bush belongs in the Hague."
FTB: "Yeah, I don't agree with that."
FTB's Captain: "Sex? So my sons girlfriend has got a nice [redacted]. I really enjoy looking at her. And I know they're out there in the car having sex. I told him, go upstairs for crying out loud. Treat her like a lady."
FTB: "..." (eyes blinking rapidly)
Yes, I shortened it, it was actually only a slightly longer conversation. The dude was a mess, but I enjoyed that trip.FTB: "Uh..... well, I'm alright if we just, um, stare out the window."
FTB's Captain: "Alright, religion. There is no God."
FTB: "This is probably why we shouldn't do this."
FTB's Captain: "Okay, how about politics? George Bush belongs in the Hague."
FTB: "Yeah, I don't agree with that."
FTB's Captain: "Sex? So my sons girlfriend has got a nice [redacted]. I really enjoy looking at her. And I know they're out there in the car having sex. I told him, go upstairs for crying out loud. Treat her like a lady."
FTB: "..." (eyes blinking rapidly)
Another reason to love the -88. Awkward "at cruise" conversations don't last long enough to get messy (unless you go off and start using Vertical Speed....)
Last edited by FmrFreightDog; 10-15-2012 at 07:05 PM.
10-15-2012, 07:17 PM
Da Hudge
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What a comeback by Denver! Wow!
10-15-2012, 07:18 PM
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Kittinger later served three combat tours of duty during the Vietnam War, flying a total of 483 missions. During his first two tours he flew as aircraft commander in Douglas A-26 Invaders and modified On Mark Engineering B-26K Counter-Invaders as part of Projects Farm Gate and Big Eagle. Following his first two Vietnam tours, he returned to the United States, and he soon transitioned to the McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II. During a voluntary third tour of duty to Vietnam in 1971-72, he commanded the 555th Tactical Fighter Squadron (555 TFS), the noted "Triple Nickel" squadron, flying the F-4D Phantom II. Kittinger would also later serve as vice commander of the 432nd Tactical Reconnaissance Wing. During this period he was credited with shooting down a North Vietnamese MiG-21.[13]
Kittinger was shot down on May 11, 1972, just before the end of his third tour of duty. While flying an F-4D, USAF Serial No. 66-0230, with his Weapons Systems Officer, 1st Lieutenant William J. Reich, Lieutenant Colonel Kittinger was leading a flight of Phantoms approximately five miles northwest of Thai Nguyen, North Vietnam, when they were engaged by a flight of MiG-21 fighter planes. Kittinger and his wingman were chasing a MiG-21 when Kittinger's Phantom II was hit by an air-to-air missile that damaged the fighter's starboard wing and set the airplane on fire. Kittinger and Reich ejected a few miles from Thai Nguyen and were soon captured and taken to the city of Hanoi. During the same engagement, Kittinger's wingman, Captain S. E. Nichols, shot down the MiG-21 they had been chasing.[14]
Kittinger and Reich spent 11 months as prisoners of war (POWs) in the "Hanoi Hilton" prison. Kittinger was put through "rope torture" soon after his arrival at the POW compound and this made a lasting impression on him. Kittinger was the senior ranking officer (SRO) among the newer prisoners of war (those captured after 1969), and he was described as having been in conflict with some of his fellow prisoners over his leadership style. He tried to keep the aggressive junior officers under his command from active resistance to their captors on the basis that it might result in more torture for the POWs. In Kittinger's autobiography "Come Up and Get Me" (by Kittinger and Craig Ryan), Kittinger defended himself as being very serious about maintaining the military structure he considered essential to survival. Kittinger and Reich were returned to American hands on March 28, 1973, and they continued their Air Force careers, with Kittinger promoted to full colonel shortly thereafter.
Just my opinion, but I think he's pretty much entitled to whatever he damn well pleases...
Lots of people called Jim Stockdale a senile old idiot too. I doubt any of them had any firsthand accounts of what like in the Hanoi Hilton was like either.
Kittinger was shot down on May 11, 1972, just before the end of his third tour of duty. While flying an F-4D, USAF Serial No. 66-0230, with his Weapons Systems Officer, 1st Lieutenant William J. Reich, Lieutenant Colonel Kittinger was leading a flight of Phantoms approximately five miles northwest of Thai Nguyen, North Vietnam, when they were engaged by a flight of MiG-21 fighter planes. Kittinger and his wingman were chasing a MiG-21 when Kittinger's Phantom II was hit by an air-to-air missile that damaged the fighter's starboard wing and set the airplane on fire. Kittinger and Reich ejected a few miles from Thai Nguyen and were soon captured and taken to the city of Hanoi. During the same engagement, Kittinger's wingman, Captain S. E. Nichols, shot down the MiG-21 they had been chasing.[14]
Kittinger and Reich spent 11 months as prisoners of war (POWs) in the "Hanoi Hilton" prison. Kittinger was put through "rope torture" soon after his arrival at the POW compound and this made a lasting impression on him. Kittinger was the senior ranking officer (SRO) among the newer prisoners of war (those captured after 1969), and he was described as having been in conflict with some of his fellow prisoners over his leadership style. He tried to keep the aggressive junior officers under his command from active resistance to their captors on the basis that it might result in more torture for the POWs. In Kittinger's autobiography "Come Up and Get Me" (by Kittinger and Craig Ryan), Kittinger defended himself as being very serious about maintaining the military structure he considered essential to survival. Kittinger and Reich were returned to American hands on March 28, 1973, and they continued their Air Force careers, with Kittinger promoted to full colonel shortly thereafter.
Just my opinion, but I think he's pretty much entitled to whatever he damn well pleases...
Lots of people called Jim Stockdale a senile old idiot too. I doubt any of them had any firsthand accounts of what like in the Hanoi Hilton was like either.
10-15-2012, 08:16 PM
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Pre Election 2008 on long ER flight with a guy who I really enjoyed flying with but...
FTB's Captain: "So what do you want to talk about, sex, politics or religion?"
FTB: "Uh..... well, I'm alright if we just, um, stare out the window."
FTB's Captain: "Alright, religion. There is no God."
FTB: "This is probably why we shouldn't do this."
FTB's Captain: "Okay, how about politics? George Bush belongs in the Hague."
FTB: "Yeah, I don't agree with that."
FTB's Captain: "Sex? So my sons girlfriend has got a nice [redacted]. I really enjoy looking at her. And I know they're out there in the car having sex. I told him, go upstairs for crying out loud. Treat her like a lady."
FTB: "..." (eyes blinking rapidly)
Yes, I shortened it, it was actually only a slightly longer conversation. The dude was a mess, but I enjoyed that trip.FTB: "Uh..... well, I'm alright if we just, um, stare out the window."
FTB's Captain: "Alright, religion. There is no God."
FTB: "This is probably why we shouldn't do this."
FTB's Captain: "Okay, how about politics? George Bush belongs in the Hague."
FTB: "Yeah, I don't agree with that."
FTB's Captain: "Sex? So my sons girlfriend has got a nice [redacted]. I really enjoy looking at her. And I know they're out there in the car having sex. I told him, go upstairs for crying out loud. Treat her like a lady."
FTB: "..." (eyes blinking rapidly)
The preamble to the MDM is surprisingly captivating depending on who you're flying with, and there are some pretty pictures the further in you go.
Nu
10-15-2012, 08:19 PM
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Kittinger later served three combat tours of duty during the Vietnam War, flying a total of 483 missions. During his first two tours he flew as aircraft commander in Douglas A-26 Invaders and modified On Mark Engineering B-26K Counter-Invaders as part of Projects Farm Gate and Big Eagle. Following his first two Vietnam tours, he returned to the United States, and he soon transitioned to the McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II. During a voluntary third tour of duty to Vietnam in 1971-72, he commanded the 555th Tactical Fighter Squadron (555 TFS), the noted "Triple Nickel" squadron, flying the F-4D Phantom II. Kittinger would also later serve as vice commander of the 432nd Tactical Reconnaissance Wing. During this period he was credited with shooting down a North Vietnamese MiG-21.[13]
Kittinger was shot down on May 11, 1972, just before the end of his third tour of duty. While flying an F-4D, USAF Serial No. 66-0230, with his Weapons Systems Officer, 1st Lieutenant William J. Reich, Lieutenant Colonel Kittinger was leading a flight of Phantoms approximately five miles northwest of Thai Nguyen, North Vietnam, when they were engaged by a flight of MiG-21 fighter planes. Kittinger and his wingman were chasing a MiG-21 when Kittinger's Phantom II was hit by an air-to-air missile that damaged the fighter's starboard wing and set the airplane on fire. Kittinger and Reich ejected a few miles from Thai Nguyen and were soon captured and taken to the city of Hanoi. During the same engagement, Kittinger's wingman, Captain S. E. Nichols, shot down the MiG-21 they had been chasing.[14]
Kittinger and Reich spent 11 months as prisoners of war (POWs) in the "Hanoi Hilton" prison. Kittinger was put through "rope torture" soon after his arrival at the POW compound and this made a lasting impression on him. Kittinger was the senior ranking officer (SRO) among the newer prisoners of war (those captured after 1969), and he was described as having been in conflict with some of his fellow prisoners over his leadership style. He tried to keep the aggressive junior officers under his command from active resistance to their captors on the basis that it might result in more torture for the POWs. In Kittinger's autobiography "Come Up and Get Me" (by Kittinger and Craig Ryan), Kittinger defended himself as being very serious about maintaining the military structure he considered essential to survival. Kittinger and Reich were returned to American hands on March 28, 1973, and they continued their Air Force careers, with Kittinger promoted to full colonel shortly thereafter.
Just my opinion, but I think he's pretty much entitled to whatever he damn well pleases...
Lots of people called Jim Stockdale a senile old idiot too. I doubt any of them had any firsthand accounts of what like in the Hanoi Hilton was like either.
Kittinger was shot down on May 11, 1972, just before the end of his third tour of duty. While flying an F-4D, USAF Serial No. 66-0230, with his Weapons Systems Officer, 1st Lieutenant William J. Reich, Lieutenant Colonel Kittinger was leading a flight of Phantoms approximately five miles northwest of Thai Nguyen, North Vietnam, when they were engaged by a flight of MiG-21 fighter planes. Kittinger and his wingman were chasing a MiG-21 when Kittinger's Phantom II was hit by an air-to-air missile that damaged the fighter's starboard wing and set the airplane on fire. Kittinger and Reich ejected a few miles from Thai Nguyen and were soon captured and taken to the city of Hanoi. During the same engagement, Kittinger's wingman, Captain S. E. Nichols, shot down the MiG-21 they had been chasing.[14]
Kittinger and Reich spent 11 months as prisoners of war (POWs) in the "Hanoi Hilton" prison. Kittinger was put through "rope torture" soon after his arrival at the POW compound and this made a lasting impression on him. Kittinger was the senior ranking officer (SRO) among the newer prisoners of war (those captured after 1969), and he was described as having been in conflict with some of his fellow prisoners over his leadership style. He tried to keep the aggressive junior officers under his command from active resistance to their captors on the basis that it might result in more torture for the POWs. In Kittinger's autobiography "Come Up and Get Me" (by Kittinger and Craig Ryan), Kittinger defended himself as being very serious about maintaining the military structure he considered essential to survival. Kittinger and Reich were returned to American hands on March 28, 1973, and they continued their Air Force careers, with Kittinger promoted to full colonel shortly thereafter.
Just my opinion, but I think he's pretty much entitled to whatever he damn well pleases...
Lots of people called Jim Stockdale a senile old idiot too. I doubt any of them had any firsthand accounts of what like in the Hanoi Hilton was like either.
10-15-2012, 08:25 PM
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10-15-2012, 08:27 PM
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Um, yea. That's when I suddenly have a question I just need to get answered, right that moment, and have to grab whatever manuals are convienetly available.
The preamble to the MDM is surprisingly captivating depending on who you're flying with, and there are some pretty pictures the further in you go.
Nu
The preamble to the MDM is surprisingly captivating depending on who you're flying with, and there are some pretty pictures the further in you go.
Nu
Don't forget to bring up the importance of the Theater Restrictions on the blue tab while you're at it. The front side lets you put it in, and most importantly the back side is less restrictive on when you can pull out.
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