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Old 10-08-2012, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
Who's gonna feed SEA though??? Thats where AKL comes in I'm afraid.
We are. Everybody is coming from JFK! Didn't you get the memo?
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot
Please tell me why your "Air Line" does not keep extra starter generators at your Int'l hub of SEA... My flight for NRT was supposed to leave @ 1340 yesterday and we are still here watching the flight slide back later and later. Showed up this morn @ 0500 to stand in line at check-in for 2.5 hours. They hadn't changed the flight# and couldn't sell the seats? What a goat rope of an "air line." Reminds me of the time 76-300 returned to FRA after departure, sit on hard stand for 2 hours, NO SERVICE, take-off to arrive in ATL when line of T-storms forecasted to arrive. Well it did and produced tornadoes in DT Atlanta so we diverted to Birmingham, an airport without customs; Good thing there wasn't a problem with the airplane when we arrived. Sure seems like people are asleep at the wheel in the planning department over there.

Funny how you guys and United have your CEOs on you "welcome aboard" videos spewing out total blatant lies about customer service and being comfortable on the aircraft, all while sitting in the WORST pitched seats on a 17 hour delayed Int'l flight. Reminds me of the White House and Capital Hill.

U.S. Airlines are the worst... and unfortunately there is nothing the front line employees can do about it.
Delta Air Lines (yes, that's how we spell it), had 3 cancellations in the entire system yesterday. That's out of 5,000 flights. Your flight was one of them. The engine failed to start, the problem was identified, and parts to fix the problem were flown in from Minneapolis. Spare parts cost an enormous amount of money, and having every single part on hand for every aircraft we operate at every station is not financially possible. No airline in the world operates that way.

The parts arrived, the aircraft was repaired, but unfortunately, due to a Japanese Government curfew on flights arriving at NRT after a certain hour, Delta was unable to operate the flight at that time. All passengers were either rerouted to their destinations, or provided rooms and meal vouchers.

As for standing in line... I am not sure why you'd need to do that if they rebooked you, unless you were rechecking bags, but even then a kiosk should suffice. Did you have a problem with your ticket or your seat assignment? Most things can be done on a smart phone or computer if you have internet access.

If you are considering a career in aviation, I'd suggest getting to know the ins and outs of all the complexities involved in the endeavor. While frustrating, delays and cancellations are a part of the business and we do the best we can to mitigate them. If you have a better way to make the mousetrap, then I congratulate you on your impending fortune in consulting "Rots of ruck" in your interview!!!
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:46 AM
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So is SEA going to be the new JFK. I gotta look at the bid package and see if the ER trips are all like the old JFK trips only to Asia instead of to Europe.
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:52 AM
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Flying sucks out there, stay far far away!!
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:55 AM
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Well, I was wrong about the announcement. No new announced codeshare ALK flights to our hubs, or elsewhere. Sounds like the joint announcement was promotional on ALK's part, and operational on ours. All in all, very good news for DL, and for SEA. Pretty cheeky announcing the HND route before the DOT awards it!
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I'm still amazed that we have a "swap with friends" board and everything doesn't have to go through normal measures.
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Agreed. It's rampant in LA. Hope it ends now.
The most notable thing about trip parking is the spotlight it shines on the changing philosophy of our union.

ALPA used to be all about job creation and protection. To the point that many of the work rules in our contract were nothing but old fashioned featherbedding. (not that there's anything wrong with that)
We had strict monthly caps and touching trips vacation pay and partial month power move-ups and bow wave and on and on etc etc. All that's long gone.
Now our union gives up more jobs and signs us up for higher monthly line values with each contract and has to be dragged kicking and screaming to enforce what little job protections we have left in the contract. They would have allowed the blatant violation of white slip pick up limits to continue if the forum regulars hadn't raised he|| about "trip parking". It seems nowadays the union is all about helping management find ways to increase productivity and run the airline with fewer pilots.

The transformation of ALPA under Moak is really quite astonishing.
Maybe it was inevitable given the reality of modern economics and maybe it will even turn out to be a good thing. I don't know. But this new age "constructive engagement" style labor relations must have the old trade unionists of yesteryear spinning in their graves.
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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot
So, let me get this straight... We don't know how to run an airline and our CEO spits out "blatant lies" but you still want to work here? Good luck with that.
You misunderstand, he wants to interview for CEO because he obviously knows how to run an Air Line.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Maybe, maybe not...

If an LEC chooses to put out flawed info even after the review process found legitimate errors, then they would not be factually correct.

I would agree that the opinions expressed in LEC pubs are factually correct.
You missed the point to my post. It was in jest. He talked from a position that all communications from a LEC are approved by the Admin and National Lawyers and support staff. No necessarily true unless those reps desire it.
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Originally Posted by Herman
CaptCrunch... exact same thing happened to a "friend of ours" recently, except the phone call came from a rather irate female scheduler named "A" around 0430 for a 0730 show. It just makes me "SICK" that we have to compromise when Sched screws up. Oh well...rules are rules...I just want to make the world a better place! Cheers H
How was that a crew scheds mistake? Your are required to check your schedule and acknowledge any trip after 3pm. Not a scheds error but pilot error.
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You are corrct Sir. Thank you.
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