Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-08-2012, 05:36 AM
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10-08-2012, 05:36 AM
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I give up on UGA!!!! They have more players in the NFL than any other college program and that is the crap that they present on the field. CMR has to go!!!! Take that aptly named OC with you too. Kudos to the OBC for turning an also ran program around, although I think Lou Holtz got the ball rolling for him. Oh, and why do the UGA cornerbacks have to give a 10 to 15 yard cushion on every play? I could catch a pass with that much cushion.
10-08-2012, 05:38 AM
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If you only knew the half of it. Several of the designs certified by the team that did the MD88 are having to be re-certified.
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10-08-2012, 05:40 AM
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Scambo, you lost me on that one, I was never good at word math but I think B gets screwed in your example and I don't think anybody is that good a friend, but I agree that somebody will figure out how to scam the system. I still like the idea of swapping with friends but if it keeps getting abused.......?
10-08-2012, 05:45 AM
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Well, the way I read it, according to NNP 12-08, you can NOT do what you are suggesting. The trip has to pass thru open time before it can go back on to Pilot A's line and then it would subject him to the max pick up. Here is a quote from the Negotiators Note Pad:
Examples:
1. If Pilot A moves a rotation to the line of Pilot B, he cannot immediately move that
rotation back to his line.
2. If Pilot A moves a rotation to the line of Pilot B, and Pilot B moves that rotation to
the line of Pilot C, the rotation cannot immediately be moved back to the lines of
Pilots A or B.
3. If Pilot A moves a rotation to the line of Pilot B and Pilot B drops it into open
time, Pilot A can pick up that rotation via PCS.
4. If Pilot A moves a rotation to the line of Pilot B, Pilot B drops it into open time,
and Pilot C picks it up via PCS, Pilot A can then move the rotation from the line
of Pilot C to his own line (with the concurrence of Pilot C).
Am I missing something?
Denny
Trip Parking
Under the TA, the Pilot to Pilot Swap Board will be reprogrammed to prevent a pilot
from moving a rotation to another pilot’s line of time and later retrieving it from that
pilot. If a rotation leaves a pilot’s line via the Swap Board, it will have to pass through
open time before it can again be placed on his line.Under the TA, the Pilot to Pilot Swap Board will be reprogrammed to prevent a pilot
from moving a rotation to another pilot’s line of time and later retrieving it from that
pilot. If a rotation leaves a pilot’s line via the Swap Board, it will have to pass through
Examples:
1. If Pilot A moves a rotation to the line of Pilot B, he cannot immediately move that
rotation back to his line.
2. If Pilot A moves a rotation to the line of Pilot B, and Pilot B moves that rotation to
the line of Pilot C, the rotation cannot immediately be moved back to the lines of
Pilots A or B.
3. If Pilot A moves a rotation to the line of Pilot B and Pilot B drops it into open
time, Pilot A can pick up that rotation via PCS.
4. If Pilot A moves a rotation to the line of Pilot B, Pilot B drops it into open time,
and Pilot C picks it up via PCS, Pilot A can then move the rotation from the line
of Pilot C to his own line (with the concurrence of Pilot C).
Am I missing something?
Denny
A never gets his original rotation back...he gets B's rotation. B gets A's.
10-08-2012, 05:45 AM
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Don't you know the MEC and ALPA Legal have final creative control over LEC Letters? That's still vastly filtered. That's like a horse that can talk. "That's amazing!" you say, but you should still wonder later why that horse could talk.
The MEC controls the spin. The contract survey said simply "more money, less RJs". One Internet based survey isn't enough to specify specific contract demands. In terms of two months of section 6 we got exactly what we paid for.
The MEC controls the spin. The contract survey said simply "more money, less RJs". One Internet based survey isn't enough to specify specific contract demands. In terms of two months of section 6 we got exactly what we paid for.
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10-08-2012, 05:49 AM
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They never get their original trip back.
10-08-2012, 06:19 AM
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10-08-2012, 06:33 AM
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I guess I'm having a hard time picturing how this would work since it all starts with a trip that is in open time. Pilot A gives trip to Pilot B then Pilot A whiteslips opentime trip and then picks up "different" trip from Pilot B that is the "B" trip of pilot A's original trip given to Pilot B.
Again, if I'm reading you correctly, you (the generic you) can only do this on a double crewed aircraft/pairing, not domestically?
Denny
10-08-2012, 06:35 AM
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With all this talk of sell jobs, I thought I'd mention that a little birdie told me our MEC spent over $650,000 to sell the most recent TA.
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