Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-06-2012, 10:26 AM
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I hope they do well navigating through BK. We've been there too.
10-06-2012, 10:27 AM
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Double Post....
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10-06-2012, 10:29 AM
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I looked at the total US operators cost.
10-06-2012, 10:35 AM
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Don't disagree. ditto the PCL issue, however it was stated that:
a) 717's now not showing until Sep 13 (Nov staffing memo)
b) we don't need to hire due to surplus and higher ALV caused by TA (AMS base visit)
c) we are making record profits even in a (overstated for cover) weak economy
d) we have gone from hiring this year, to maybe hiring this year, to hiring next year, to maybe hiring next year, to a small surplus of 320 pilots to a "sizable" surplus to fill surplus MD88 in the hope they bid (or will displace) to short course over to the 717. (ALPA. Flt Ops, Crew Planning)
e) good news is some possible DC9 and 330/747 intentional awards (or maybe no displacements?) to surplussing in anticipation of training constraints and uncertainty of 62-65 retirements (Crew Planning)
The TA was a huge win - just not for the Delta pilots.
a) 717's now not showing until Sep 13 (Nov staffing memo)
b) we don't need to hire due to surplus and higher ALV caused by TA (AMS base visit)
c) we are making record profits even in a (overstated for cover) weak economy
d) we have gone from hiring this year, to maybe hiring this year, to hiring next year, to maybe hiring next year, to a small surplus of 320 pilots to a "sizable" surplus to fill surplus MD88 in the hope they bid (or will displace) to short course over to the 717. (ALPA. Flt Ops, Crew Planning)
e) good news is some possible DC9 and 330/747 intentional awards (or maybe no displacements?) to surplussing in anticipation of training constraints and uncertainty of 62-65 retirements (Crew Planning)
The TA was a huge win - just not for the Delta pilots.
The company got what they wanted. They are trying to be coy about implementing a now huge increase in productivity requiring less pilots. All this other spin about the economy (which is roughly the same or better per yesterdays jobless rate stat than it was when the TA was voted on) is simply not being honest.
10-06-2012, 10:43 AM
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Ahhh, my favorite DPA moderator...today is a great day for a BBQ!
Did you ever send the check to the Delta Pilots Charitable Fund?
Really, it's 80 degrees and sunny out where I live!
Oh, and I view the minority as 14-5, or 62-38 of 94% of the pilots. That minority deserves respect. The process deserves respect. But consensus doesn't equal doing it the way the minority chooses.
Did you ever send the check to the Delta Pilots Charitable Fund?
Really, it's 80 degrees and sunny out where I live!
Oh, and I view the minority as 14-5, or 62-38 of 94% of the pilots. That minority deserves respect. The process deserves respect. But consensus doesn't equal doing it the way the minority chooses.
I forgot the check... I'll send that in since you did win that round.
As far as the minority... figures you'd view it that way. 38% of the pilot group thought we could have done way better recently. That is no small number.
10-06-2012, 10:51 AM
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what position does that slowplay guy have in DALPA?
I can't believe our money goes to supporting his efforts to justify DALPA decisions that are diminishing our careers more every week.
I can't believe our money goes to supporting his efforts to justify DALPA decisions that are diminishing our careers more every week.
Last edited by Purple Drank; 10-06-2012 at 11:03 AM.
10-06-2012, 10:56 AM
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Um, forgive me but if they were originally coming in Aug 2013 and are now coming in Sep 2013 then isn't that a change? Originally we were told that we would take delivery of 16 B717 aircraft in 2013. Now it appears that is down to 12 aircraft. Or did I misinterpret SD's latest update?
10-06-2012, 11:00 AM
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10-06-2012, 11:05 AM
Straight QOL, homie
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10-06-2012, 11:11 AM
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Dragon, you will continue to get bullied until you "get your mind right", fall in line and are assimliated into "I'm happy to get pooped on for the rest of my career thank you very much".
Continue to throw that hammer. The ideology of our union needs to change otherwise we are all screwed until the last day.
Continue to throw that hammer. The ideology of our union needs to change otherwise we are all screwed until the last day.
Fits more than ever....
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