Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-23-2012, 06:40 AM
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09-23-2012, 06:43 AM
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09-23-2012, 06:53 AM
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09-23-2012, 07:07 AM
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So which is it? Did you make an "error" listing yourself as an ER A, or in your post above?
Do you equate capacity reductions, market shrinkage and increasing costs with "success" ?
Do you believe our stock performance is just the result of every one else just not getting what you perceive?
If I were former NWA I would probably see things a bit differently. After all, Northwest management has maintained their strategic direction.
Also, there is a difference between "well run" amd good to work for. US Air frequently surprises me with their better than expected performance, but I would not work there if that was the last flying job on planet. Delta is a good employer and offers a good product ... bit the same could be said for a number of once greats like Sears and Kodak.
Do you equate capacity reductions, market shrinkage and increasing costs with "success" ?
Do you believe our stock performance is just the result of every one else just not getting what you perceive?
If I were former NWA I would probably see things a bit differently. After all, Northwest management has maintained their strategic direction.
Also, there is a difference between "well run" amd good to work for. US Air frequently surprises me with their better than expected performance, but I would not work there if that was the last flying job on planet. Delta is a good employer and offers a good product ... bit the same could be said for a number of once greats like Sears and Kodak.
Would you prefer we continue to serve Europe at a loss? Do you honestly believe that had Delta remained independent, your airline would still be serving Cairo, Amman, Mumbai non stop, Berlin, etc?
The reductions in capacity sucks. But so does the global economy, our countries debt, the jobless rate, Delta's debt, and Gary Bettman(only NHL fans will understand that one). I want to be holding great, commutable line on the fleet of my choice too. But apparently it's just not my time.
I know you're happy to work at Delta, but I think your pointing the blame at FNWA management is off the mark. You're a business guy, so if you can prove to me the economy is ready for us to expand, or that other Legacies aren't following in our footsteps, I'll think otherwise.
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09-23-2012, 07:12 AM
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It's really quite simple. Had DAL remained independent and maintained it's planned international expansion, it would've spelled disaster for you. You'd likely still be on furlough. I likely would've been furloughed from NWA too. The merger made one company better together then the two companies apart. It's simply undeniable.
Would you prefer we continue to serve Europe at a loss? Do you honestly believe that had Delta remained independent, your airline would still be serving Cairo, Amman, Mumbai non stop, Berlin, etc?
The reductions in capacity sucks. But so does the global economy, our countries debt, the jobless rate, Delta's debt, and Gary Bettman(only NHL fans will understand that one). I want to be holding great, commutable line on the fleet of my choice too. But apparently is just not my time.
I know you're happy to work at Delta, but I think your pointing the blame at FNWA management is off the mark. You're a business guy, so if you can prove to me the economy is ready for us to expand, or that other Legacies aren't following in our footsteps, I'll think otherwise.
Would you prefer we continue to serve Europe at a loss? Do you honestly believe that had Delta remained independent, your airline would still be serving Cairo, Amman, Mumbai non stop, Berlin, etc?
The reductions in capacity sucks. But so does the global economy, our countries debt, the jobless rate, Delta's debt, and Gary Bettman(only NHL fans will understand that one). I want to be holding great, commutable line on the fleet of my choice too. But apparently is just not my time.
I know you're happy to work at Delta, but I think your pointing the blame at FNWA management is off the mark. You're a business guy, so if you can prove to me the economy is ready for us to expand, or that other Legacies aren't following in our footsteps, I'll think otherwise.
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Last edited by johnso29; 09-23-2012 at 07:20 AM. Reason: Corrected the word like to line in the quote of my post
09-23-2012, 07:28 AM
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Did anyone imagine that within 5 years of the DAL/NW merger, the names "Mesaba" "ASA" and "Comair" would entirely dissapear from the regional world?
And yet you're still left with 400+ regional jets...
Last edited by Boomer; 09-23-2012 at 07:30 AM. Reason: I misspelled 400 with a 7... oops
09-23-2012, 07:32 AM
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It amazes me that some self proclaimed scope hawks couldn't see the value in the massive scope recapture this contract paved the way for. Great reply Slow
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09-23-2012, 07:33 AM
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09-23-2012, 07:33 AM
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It's really quite simple. Had DAL remained independent and maintained it's planned international expansion, it would've spelled disaster for you. You'd likely still be on furlough. I likely would've been furloughed from NWA too. The merger made one company better together then the two companies apart. It's simply undeniable.
Would you prefer we continue to serve Europe at a loss? Do you honestly believe that had Delta remained independent, your airline would still be serving Cairo, Amman, Mumbai non stop, Berlin, etc?
The reductions in capacity sucks. But so does the global economy, our countries debt, the jobless rate, Delta's debt, and Gary Bettman(only NHL fans will understand that one). I want to be holding great, commutable line on the fleet of my choice too. But apparently it's just not my time.
I know you're happy to work at Delta, but I think your pointing the blame at FNWA management is off the mark. You're a business guy, so if you can prove to me the economy is ready for us to expand, or that other Legacies aren't following in our footsteps, I'll think otherwise.
Would you prefer we continue to serve Europe at a loss? Do you honestly believe that had Delta remained independent, your airline would still be serving Cairo, Amman, Mumbai non stop, Berlin, etc?
The reductions in capacity sucks. But so does the global economy, our countries debt, the jobless rate, Delta's debt, and Gary Bettman(only NHL fans will understand that one). I want to be holding great, commutable line on the fleet of my choice too. But apparently it's just not my time.
I know you're happy to work at Delta, but I think your pointing the blame at FNWA management is off the mark. You're a business guy, so if you can prove to me the economy is ready for us to expand, or that other Legacies aren't following in our footsteps, I'll think otherwise.
IMHO the model of acquiring airlines, then shutting them down to remove capacity is more expensive than the temporary benefits of capacity reductions repay. Just as we cheer for American to merge with US Air, our competitors grow at our expense as a result of our merger.
09-23-2012, 07:34 AM
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