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Old 09-21-2012, 08:33 PM
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
frankly, with hiring, if we're transferring flying from DCI to mainline then we should be hiring no matter what the economy is doing, eh? Starting this year to prepare for the pending transfer of flying.
The thing people seem to keep forgetting is that we are overstaffed, and have been for the last couple years.
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by groundstop
The thing people seem to keep forgetting is that we are overstaffed, and have been for the last couple years.
We have not been overstaffed for summer flying. The manning formula and actual desired staffing are not the same number. We get 16 717's next year. They all however come late in the year and in service dates could be as late as Nov.
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Old 09-22-2012, 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
We have not been overstaffed for summer flying. The manning formula and actual desired staffing are not the same number. We get 16 717's next year. They all however come late in the year and in service dates could be as late as Nov.
The good news is SW is paying to deliver them completely turn-key on day one... Heavy maintenance, Rolls-Royce mods, Delta interiors & Paint, Fuzzy Dice hanging from the rear view mirror... the works. Thanks SW!
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:12 AM
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I think MGT is wanting to see the direction AMR turns over the next several weeks before starting our hiring process. IMHO, just too many possibilities if things went terribly wrong over there. Our team is in delay mode, delay delay delay....till the writing is on the wall.
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DAWGS
I think MGT is wanting to see the direction AMR turns over the next several weeks before starting our hiring process. IMHO, just too many possibilities if things went terribly wrong over there. Our team is in delay mode, delay delay delay....till the writing is on the wall.
Of course they are. The place(AMR) is imploding. This will result in the creditors committee push for fast cash. That may come from fragmentation. You do not commit to anything until their is a likely resolution over there. Anything from more cuts of AMR's capacity, fragmentation, merger with one of a few players, or Horton acquiescing to what APA wants are all possible. You do not muddy the waters with new hires, jets, or block hr plans that could complicate a quick transaction. Dal is keeping things very clean right now, credit open, etc so they can move and move quick. Smart business decisions given the volatility that any one of these possibilities would result in for the market place.

I am sure as the day is long that, DAL has done its due diligence on any corporate opportunities that may arise. Our early TA and resultant PWA are a direct result of RA looking forward, wanting to restructure DCI, restructure debt, and have lines of credit agreed to but not taken for any possibilities that may result. It's a prudent business decision, and one he had to make.

Notice no new 76 seaters are on order. SKW owned 50's are going to fly for AMR out of DFW and LAX, but no official statement on DAL's owned 50's yet.
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Old 09-22-2012, 05:22 AM
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With ual about to hire, they'll get a jump on dal with hiring the top applicants. Come on dal, get to moving!
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Old 09-22-2012, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
With ual about to hire, they'll get a jump on dal with hiring the top applicants. Come on dal, get to moving!
We shall see. They have the whole merger synergies thing to go through as well.

I was in a van last week with a CAL 2005 hire and this is what he told me he's delaying capt upgrade for qol, but could hold it
A 2005 CAL hire is in the top 15% on the 73n, 25% in the 756 and a easy line holder on the 777 in IAH. A late 2006 hire is in the 46% on the 756 in EWR. That sli is going to be interesting to watch.


Oh and we hire totally different personality types or so it seems.
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Old 09-22-2012, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
We shall see. They have the whole merger synergies thing to go through as well.

I was in a van last week with a CAL 2005 hire and this is what he told me he's delaying capt upgrade for qol, but could hold it
A 2005 CAL hire is in the top 15% on the 73n, 25% in the 756 and a easy line holder on the 777 in IAH. A late 2006 hire is in the 46% on the 756 in EWR. That sli is going to be interesting to watch.


Oh and we hire totally different personality types or so it seems.
It is going to get interesting. Talked with a fellow FO in NY. Someone he knows is already talking to chief pilots over there at UAL and will jump Ma Delta's ship if hired. I know 3 guys from my 2010 hire group that have jumped ship for QOL issues.
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Old 09-22-2012, 06:59 AM
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I just read the "Weekly Update" on DNET, and as of right now, Delta is adequately staffed. No plans to hire until late 2013 for the 2014 schedule.
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