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Old 09-20-2012, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Went to the Flight Ops roadshow in AMS today. My take is that it doesn't look good for hiring in the near term. 2 757's to be retired next year vs 10. No growth to Europe, SEA to be expanded as Asian hub, and need to grow South America. Mergers were downplayed especially HA.
Thanks... sounds about in line with the SD updates. Question: Do you mean that the original plan was to retire 10 757's from the fleet next year and now the plan is to retire only 2?
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:52 AM
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Yes, they are keeping 8 757's that they had planned on retiring. The crew resources guy was very vague on hiring. All based on the magical 2013 marketing plan. My take was , don't hold your breath. World economy is'nt helping things.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Yes, they are keeping 8 757's that they had planned on retiring. The crew resources guy was very vague on hiring. All based on the magical 2013 marketing plan. My take was , don't hold your breath. World economy is'nt helping things.
This was posted on that other board, some of you probably read it. It wasn't posted in response to DAL, but DAL is a micro part of the macro world. I thought it was a pretty clean kill and actually not too wordy for what it conveyed. I wish I could write like him:

In a world where we approach an impending Fiscal Cliff, face a Taxamaddon, have unacceptable levels of unemployment, record low levels in the Labor Force Participation Rate, where we continue to set records in the number of Americans who need of food stamps eat in an electronic breadline, have seen our .gov's credit downgraded not just once, but twice, and threatened a third time, see our diplomats killed as the Mideast Islamic world burns, watch as at least one embassy is burning it's classified documents, because in that attack in which the Ambassador to Libya was killed, classified documents were also lost, where the ragtag, illiterate Taliban in Afghanistan, riding around as is their wont in man-dresses and on horseback, as they twirdle "Dirka, Dirka, Dirka", or whatever, can succeed in destroying 6 Harriers, and seriously damaging another 2, as all 8 sat on the ground, along with killing the unit's Squadron Commander--in a loss of 8% of the entire Marine Corps Harrier fleet--effectively making a US combat unit combat ineffective, where Russian and Iranian troops are on the ground in Syria, but that's OK, because Syrian jets are flying over Lebanon, where Japan and China are rattling their sabers at each other--a potential conflict which raises a central question, where Greece is failing, but that's the good news because Spain is failing too, and they're worse than Greece, ......
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by orvil
The story is true. I had confirmation from an old retired guy. I can't remember the name. The pilot in question was being counseled by Pre Ball, back when we had real Chief Pilots and not pencil pushers.

In my squadrons, we had an "off the record" book. In this book, we would record, with great flourish, every major and minor screw up and humorous event. Basically, if a person did something that another person found dumb or funny, the observer would write the story down with embellishments to enhance the tale. DAL needs something like that to preserve the (absolutely hilarious and presently completely not allowed) off color history.

The world is messed up when you are supposed to feel guilty about laughing at something...that happened.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
...DAL needs something like that to preserve the (absolutely hilarious and presently completely not allowed) off color history...
And that place would be APC DL&G, right?
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
And that place would be APC DL&G, right?
It's too bad we can't write it all down, but you -know- that if CNN or Fox ever got a hold of the names and incidents, well...ask that Jet Blue Capt. how that worked out for him!
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Mergers were downplayed especially HA.
You know what that means....

I do think ANY merger won't be announced until AFTER the HND route is awarded.
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
In my squadrons, we had an "off the record" book. In this book, we would record, with great flourish, every major and minor screw up and humorous event. Basically, if a person did something that another person found dumb or funny, the observer would write the story down with embellishments to enhance the tale. DAL needs something like that to preserve the (absolutely hilarious and presently completely not allowed) off color history.

The world is messed up when you are supposed to feel guilty about laughing at something...that happened.
The Doofer Book. Truth was never an obstacle to telling a good story.
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Yes, they are keeping 8 757's that they had planned on retiring. The crew resources guy was very vague on hiring. All based on the magical 2013 marketing plan. My take was , don't hold your breath. World economy is'nt helping things.
That is good news.
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
That is good news.
Yep, the -900s are growth aircraft (for now anyway).
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