Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-19-2012, 08:06 PM
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I've got VIDEO! Face First, into the Bush!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEH7OpnA-I4
BUT, if he's lucky, he's driving that red car we saw a few pages back!
In that case...he might get a little razor burn.
09-19-2012, 09:13 PM
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If I had to bet, I'd say we face 3:2 odds of losing the slot. Especially where DL is based versus a beloved underdog airline from a state with far deeper current political ties.
This could actually be the catalyst to jump start the inevitable merger, which is fine with me. If we're going to do it, sooner is better because every single new hire class they run buffs their list more than several years of non stop DL hiring.
I predict we lose the slot, acquire Hawaiian, are faced with threats of losing it again as part of DOJ mandated divesture but end up keeping it after giving something else up. But that's just me guessing.
09-20-2012, 01:41 AM
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09-20-2012, 02:43 AM
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Maybe. It could also be a planted rumor to help DAL's effort because when the dust settles, its going to be a DL slot anyway?
If I had to bet, I'd say we face 3:2 odds of losing the slot. Especially where DL is based versus a beloved underdog airline from a state with far deeper current political ties.
This could actually be the catalyst to jump start the inevitable merger, which is fine with me. If we're going to do it, sooner is better because every single new hire class they run buffs their list more than several years of non stop DL hiring.
I predict we lose the slot, acquire Hawaiian, are faced with threats of losing it again as part of DOJ mandated divestiture but end up keeping it after giving something else up. But that's just me guessing.
If I had to bet, I'd say we face 3:2 odds of losing the slot. Especially where DL is based versus a beloved underdog airline from a state with far deeper current political ties.
This could actually be the catalyst to jump start the inevitable merger, which is fine with me. If we're going to do it, sooner is better because every single new hire class they run buffs their list more than several years of non stop DL hiring.
I predict we lose the slot, acquire Hawaiian, are faced with threats of losing it again as part of DOJ mandated divestiture but end up keeping it after giving something else up. But that's just me guessing.
09-20-2012, 04:03 AM
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Any thoughts about when the HND slot swap decision will be announced?
09-20-2012, 06:31 AM
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Probably just a few weeks. The slot is dormant (Delta is not currently using the slot) so it's just a matter of gathering information and making a decision. Then there is the appeal time frame. Again, probably just a few weeks. I think DL has a good case for SEA service to HND, but I think we're going to lose the slot anyway, probably to UAL. At that point, we might have a good enough reason to go after HA.
09-20-2012, 08:52 AM
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IMO, if we announced a merger acquisition with HAL, it significantly decreases the odds of LaHood awarding DAL the former DTW-HND slot. Most of DAL's argument is about SEA and lack of access, both O and D and beyond. Some of that is marginalized by doing anything with HAL prior to the decision. We have waited this long to jump on further consolidation, I would be quite surprised to see us do it now.
09-20-2012, 09:19 AM
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IMO, if we announced a merger acquisition with HAL, it significantly decreases the odds of LaHood awarding DAL the former DTW-HND slot. Most of DAL's argument is about SEA and lack of access, both O and D and beyond. Some of that is marginalized by doing anything with HAL prior to the decision. We have waited this long to jump on further consolidation, I would be quite surprised to see us do it now.
09-20-2012, 11:18 AM
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The story is true. I had confirmation from an old retired guy. I can't remember the name. The pilot in question was being counseled by Pre Ball, back when we had real Chief Pilots and not pencil pushers.
09-20-2012, 11:18 AM
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Went to the Flight Ops roadshow in AMS today. My take is that it doesn't look good for hiring in the near term. 2 757's to be retired next year vs 10. No growth to Europe, SEA to be expanded as Asian hub, and need to grow South America. Mergers were downplayed especially HA.
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