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Old 09-17-2012, 04:27 AM
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Oh Newk, why did you have to leave the 9?





But I guess our loss is New York's gain. It's good to know you're being productive on your short callls.

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Old 09-17-2012, 04:38 AM
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Little tidbit from Motley Fool that I thought you all would be interested in:

1-Star Stocks Poised to Plunge: Delta Air Lines?
By Brian D. Pacampara | More Articles
September 16, 2012 | Comments (1)
Based on the aggregated intelligence of 180,000-plus investors participating in Motley Fool CAPS, the Fool's free investing community, airline operator Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL ) has received the dreaded one-star ranking.
With that in mind, let's take a closer look at Delta's business and see what CAPS investors are saying about the stock right now.
Delta facts
Headquarters (Founded) Atlanta (1924)
Market Cap $8.0 billion
Industry Airlines
Trailing-12-Month Revenue $36.4 billion
Management CEO Richard Anderson (since September 2007)
CFO Paul Jacobson (since March 2012)
Return on Equity (Average, Past 3 Years) 8.9%
Cash/Debt $3.5 billion / $13.1 billion
Competitors AMR
Deutsche Lufthansa
United Continental Holdings
Sources: S&P Capital IQ and Motley Fool CAPS.
On CAPS, 42% of the 932 members who have rated Delta believe the stock will underperform the S&P 500 going forward.
Earlier this summer, one of those Fools, colleague Justin Loiseau (TMFJLo), succinctly summed up the Delta bear case for our community:
Delta suffers from the worst fuel efficiency of any airline. It suffers from lackluster customer confidence and has the oldest fleet of any major airline. It is reinvesting too slowly and its corner-cutting will continue to push it further behind competition.

The one comment:
On September 16, 2012, at 2:45 PM, tbirdreg wrote:
The observations about Delta are right on target. When I worked at NWA, which was absorbed by Delta 4 years ago, we had Anderson as the CEO. It was the same story.... lack of consumer confidence, poor fleet efficiency, and reinvesting too slowly or not at all. That is what cause NWA to go down the tubes. Now Delta has adopted that same strategy. The latest is the leasing of AirTran/Southwest's used Boeing 717, they are in effect replacing the DC9-50s which are 40+ years old with a new version of the airplane no one wants to fly on.
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleSam
Little tidbit from Motley Fool that I thought you all would be interested in:

1-Star Stocks Poised to Plunge: Delta Air Lines?
By Brian D. Pacampara | More Articles
September 16, 2012 | Comments (1)
Based on the aggregated intelligence of 180,000-plus investors participating in Motley Fool CAPS, the Fool's free investing community, airline operator Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL ) has received the dreaded one-star ranking.
With that in mind, let's take a closer look at Delta's business and see what CAPS investors are saying about the stock right now.
Delta facts
Headquarters (Founded) Atlanta (1924)
Market Cap $8.0 billion
Industry Airlines
Trailing-12-Month Revenue $36.4 billion
Management CEO Richard Anderson (since September 2007)
CFO Paul Jacobson (since March 2012)
Return on Equity (Average, Past 3 Years) 8.9%
Cash/Debt $3.5 billion / $13.1 billion
Competitors AMR
Deutsche Lufthansa
United Continental Holdings
Sources: S&P Capital IQ and Motley Fool CAPS.
On CAPS, 42% of the 932 members who have rated Delta believe the stock will underperform the S&P 500 going forward.
Earlier this summer, one of those Fools, colleague Justin Loiseau (TMFJLo), succinctly summed up the Delta bear case for our community:
Delta suffers from the worst fuel efficiency of any airline. It suffers from lackluster customer confidence and has the oldest fleet of any major airline. It is reinvesting too slowly and its corner-cutting will continue to push it further behind competition.

The one comment:
On September 16, 2012, at 2:45 PM, tbirdreg wrote:
The observations about Delta are right on target. When I worked at NWA, which was absorbed by Delta 4 years ago, we had Anderson as the CEO. It was the same story.... lack of consumer confidence, poor fleet efficiency, and reinvesting too slowly or not at all. That is what cause NWA to go down the tubes. Now Delta has adopted that same strategy. The latest is the leasing of AirTran/Southwest's used Boeing 717, they are in effect replacing the DC9-50s which are 40+ years old with a new version of the airplane no one wants to fly on.
Thanks Uncle. The comment, however, is BS.
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleSam
Little tidbit from Motley Fool that I thought you all would be interested in:

1-Star Stocks Poised to Plunge: Delta Air Lines?
By Brian D. Pacampara | More Articles
September 16, 2012 | Comments (1)
Based on the aggregated intelligence of 180,000-plus investors participating in Motley Fool CAPS, the Fool's free investing community, airline operator Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL ) has received the dreaded one-star ranking.
With that in mind, let's take a closer look at Delta's business and see what CAPS investors are saying about the stock right now.
Delta facts
Headquarters (Founded) Atlanta (1924)
Market Cap $8.0 billion
Industry Airlines
Trailing-12-Month Revenue $36.4 billion
Management CEO Richard Anderson (since September 2007)
CFO Paul Jacobson (since March 2012)
Return on Equity (Average, Past 3 Years) 8.9%
Cash/Debt $3.5 billion / $13.1 billion
Competitors AMR
Deutsche Lufthansa
United Continental Holdings
Sources: S&P Capital IQ and Motley Fool CAPS.
On CAPS, 42% of the 932 members who have rated Delta believe the stock will underperform the S&P 500 going forward.
Earlier this summer, one of those Fools, colleague Justin Loiseau (TMFJLo), succinctly summed up the Delta bear case for our community:
Delta suffers from the worst fuel efficiency of any airline. It suffers from lackluster customer confidence and has the oldest fleet of any major airline. It is reinvesting too slowly and its corner-cutting will continue to push it further behind competition.

The one comment:
On September 16, 2012, at 2:45 PM, tbirdreg wrote:
The observations about Delta are right on target. When I worked at NWA, which was absorbed by Delta 4 years ago, we had Anderson as the CEO. It was the same story.... lack of consumer confidence, poor fleet efficiency, and reinvesting too slowly or not at all. That is what cause NWA to go down the tubes. Now Delta has adopted that same strategy. The latest is the leasing of AirTran/Southwest's used Boeing 717, they are in effect replacing the DC9-50s which are 40+ years old with a new version of the airplane no one wants to fly on.
Operative word in article is: Fool

Thanks, but not really interested. No one takes anything said at Motley Fool seriously.

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Old 09-17-2012, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Classy.....
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by orvil
Operative word in article is: Fool

Thanks, but not really interested. No one takes anything said at Motley Fool seriously.
I love it when they let the local Jr High write investor blogs.
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:55 AM
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I was very surprised to hear that Istanbul has been dropped. SD said the yields are too low despite high load factors. We recently up gauged the service and have served the market for 20 years. The Turkish economy is a bright spot in Europe. It would have been more accurate to say that Turkish Air chased us out with their recent expansion. Just like Air Berlin did.
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:55 AM
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I choose topic 2... I need to get a hold of the video they used... it might come in handy!

Not the one with the train or the extreme sports... The other video.
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Thanks Uncle. The comment, however, is BS.
Agreed, we're replacing RJ's that people for sure don't want to ride on for aircraft that are much more comfortable. Also, instead of buying aircraft for 4x the cost we're getting the DC9-717 which has been a proven worhorse for nwa/dal for over 4 decades just newer models.

I think "fool" is a good name for that group ;-)
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Originally Posted by NuGuy
Clamp has earned his street cred here.

Nu
"Street cred" or not, whatever.....

Not appropriate moderator behavior IMHO.


mod·er·ate   [adj., n. mod-er-it, mod-rit; v. mod-uh-reyt]
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