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Old 09-16-2012, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Said by ever the level of discussion raiser! +717, fine sir.
You make no sense whatsoever. Carry on.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

That's not a Raptor copy at all. Raptors have white gear bays so you can spot hydraulic leaks. This is obviously an entire new design.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Yet less then 8 months into the start of the process a substantial number of mainline jobs have been created and it looks like more will be coming from the NY swap.
Do you have an exact number of how many mainline jobs have been created in the last 8 months? (Not counting USAir)
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
a-chimmy-chang-chong.... a-chimmy-chang-Chinese Raptor?


Is that a Chinese copy of a Pratt & Whitney logo on the vertical stab?
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Is that a Chinese copy of a Pratt & Whitney logo on the vertical stab?
I thought it was Hamilton Standard Company - maker of fine Chinese propellers for 80 years.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Is that a Chinese copy of a Pratt & Whitney logo on the vertical stab?
The last true gun fighter was the f-8. Everything that has followed has been a platform for a radar and a weapons system.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Do you have an exact number of how many mainline jobs have been created in the last 8 months? (Not counting USAir)
On my count, since the swap was announced we've dropped from 12300 pilots to around 11960ish. So, yes... that many!
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr
The last true gun fighter was the f-8. Everything that has followed has been a platform for a radar and a weapons system.
It's not like they shot down many Germans with them.

I'm sure history will show that the last great gunfighter was Alex Rogan. In just one mission he took out Zur and the Ko Dan Armada.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr
The last true gun fighter was the f-8. Everything that has followed has been a platform for a radar and a weapons system.
Bull.



The F-17 was the last true gun fighter.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The contract is not going to be even a 1 percent factor in if we hire or not. It will come down 99 percent to the block hour plan for next summer. The economy will drive that.

The above items are all of the top of my head without evening looking at the contract for other items. As far as hiring or not hiring it bears repeating a common phrase. "It's the economy stupid."
Sailing, that's the antithesis of what ALPA told us as we were being sold the TA. I don't have the product in front of me, but we were sent a fancy hiring comparison about a month before the vote. From what I remember the estimated difference in required hiring between TA and no TA (independent of the economy) was about two thousand jobs.
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