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Old 09-15-2012, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Worth posting. Go get it done if you haven't. It's about pilot jobs no displacements etc.


Item 1. Haneda. *Other airlines are trying to take our Haneda route. *Those other airlines are all making the case that they deserve the route we are simply trying to move from Detroit to Seattle. *The loss of this route will mean less domestic pilots needed to feed the route, and less international pilots to fly the route, it will mean less international flying in the Pacific, and less revenue and profit sharing. * DOT Chairman Ray LaHood will make the decision shortly, and there is a great deal of organized opposition to Delta retaining this route.

Please go today to*Capwiz*and do your part to help retain these jobs for Delta pilots. *Do it today. *Click on the*Capwiz*link to do your part saving this route for Delta.
The last time DAL asked us to lobby for them, they had this glowing and rosey picture of more slots and jobs for mainline, most on here were pontificating about the possiblity of hiring....for LGA slots, then we we got the deal done....90% of the slots went to RJ's. Who's to say that if we lobby for them again and we get/retain the HND slot...we don't have a codeshare partner fly the route, or sign a new deal with yet another codeshare/outsourcing partner and have the cheaper labor fly it??? Cathay, Evergreen, KAL...ect? I get paid to fly airplanes, they get paid to run the airline. It's THIER job to get the flying, not mine. Lucy has moved the football one too many times for Charlie to fall for it again. If it's in MY interest, then Alpa-Pac can lobby for us...I already pay them too.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:56 PM
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FWIW, a pretty decent chunk of those slots are now mainline. Still far below what we were led to believe, but it's sure better than the initial.

Besides, no RJ can do SEA-HND, and I haven't seen drop tanks big enough to enable Alaska to do it.
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
The last time DAL asked us to lobby for them, they had this glowing and rosey picture of more slots and jobs for mainline, most on here were pontificating about the possiblity of hiring....for LGA slots, then we we got the deal done....90% of the slots went to RJ's. Who's to say that if we lobby for them again and we get/retain the HND slot...we don't have a codeshare partner fly the route, or sign a new deal with yet another codeshare/outsourcing partner and have the cheaper labor fly it??? Cathay, Evergreen, KAL...ect? I get paid to fly airplanes, they get paid to run the airline. It's THIER job to get the flying, not mine. Lucy has moved the football one too many times for Charlie to fall for it again. If it's in MY interest, then Alpa-Pac can lobby for us...I already pay them too.
I love lobbying for more Alaska flying. With the exception of the actual SEA-HND route what ALPA fails to mention is that this will be filled with DCI and Alaska feed.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
The last time DAL asked us to lobby for them, they had this glowing and rosey picture of more slots and jobs for mainline, most on here were pontificating about the possiblity of hiring....for LGA slots, then we we got the deal done....90% of the slots went to RJ's. Who's to say that if we lobby for them again and we get/retain the HND slot...we don't have a codeshare partner fly the route, or sign a new deal with yet another codeshare/outsourcing partner and have the cheaper labor fly it??? Cathay, Evergreen, KAL...ect? I get paid to fly airplanes, they get paid to run the airline. It's THIER job to get the flying, not mine. Lucy has moved the football one too many times for Charlie to fall for it again. If it's in MY interest, then Alpa-Pac can lobby for us...I already pay them too.

This one is a no brainier. It keeps block hes for our pilots. On LGA everyone was ****ed at the first wave. As we move out more and more is becoming mainline. Not perfect by a long shot but the two are apples and oranges. This is WB flying. Extrapolate the WB block hrs lost for a year.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:16 PM
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if we post a reply and it disappears should you not PM the poster and say why it was removed????

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Old 09-15-2012, 09:18 PM
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
if we post a reply and it disappears should you not PM the poster and say why it was removed????

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I'm gonna take a wild guess and say yours crossed the political line.

For me, it was such a lob pitch, I almost swung.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
The last time DAL asked us to lobby for them, they had this glowing and rosey picture of more slots and jobs for mainline, most on here were pontificating about the possiblity of hiring....for LGA slots, then we we got the deal done....90% of the slots went to RJ's. Who's to say that if we lobby for them again and we get/retain the HND slot...we don't have a codeshare partner fly the route, or sign a new deal with yet another codeshare/outsourcing partner and have the cheaper labor fly it??? Cathay, Evergreen, KAL...ect? I get paid to fly airplanes, they get paid to run the airline. It's THIER job to get the flying, not mine. Lucy has moved the football one too many times for Charlie to fall for it again. If it's in MY interest, then Alpa-Pac can lobby for us...I already pay them too.
So, you work for Delta but you are not Delta. They vs. you. That's pretty telling. Support the company or don't. Your choice. I choose to be Delta and proudly am an employee. I get paid to fly airplanes also...Delta pays me. I'm assuming Delta pays you and you wear your Delta uniform.

And it's "their" not "their."
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
if we post a reply and it disappears should you not PM the poster and say why it was removed????

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It was way past the line political. I was out the door yesterday am and Jude deleted yours and the reply to it. I guess I could have given An I fraction to ya, but just opted to delete the post.
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