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Old 09-11-2012, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Back in the stone ages, when we had bid sheets and a slightly different reserve system, your first day on call was always a short call day. I liked it because you could plan around it, you knew you were definately going to be on SC those days.

In addition to those SC days, they could also assign you a few more per month, up to 6 total. If you were a commuter, you would call them ahead and tell them you were going to be in base for that first day, and ask them to put you on SC for the following day, so you wouldn't have to make too many trips to base.

I haven't had to sit reserve under the PBS system, but what do you guys think about going back to that 'first day on call is always SC' type system?

Or perhaps being able to bid all your SC days, just like bidding X days?
When I was MSP based, particularly in the winter months, I would bid continuous short calls until reaching 6, then I'd go home. In ATL I'd usually be assigned a long-call trip around 10 AM the day prior.

The random nature of SC assignments, quantities and requirements continues to astound me.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:14 AM
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Anyone know how to tell if a 744 has been through the mod line and has the lie-flat seats yet?

Thanks.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Back in the stone ages, when we had bid sheets and a slightly different reserve system, your first day on call was always a short call day. I liked it because you could plan around it, you knew you were definately going to be on SC those days.

In addition to those SC days, they could put you on SC a few more per month, up to 6 total. If you were a commuter, you would call them ahead and tell them you were going to be in base for that first day, and ask them to put you on SC for the following day, so you wouldn't have to make too many trips to base.

I haven't had to sit reserve under the PBS system, but what do you guys think about going back to that 'first day on call is always SC' type system?

Or perhaps being able to bid all your SC days, just like bidding X days?
I would definitely like to see a system where we can bid on SC's or at least one where they actually respect the request given in Icrew. I don't bother placing those request anymore because when I want one I don't get it and vice versa. Simply stated I would just like to have a chart or list of who is next to go so we have some accountability. I don't like being at the whim of those behind the keyboard.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Anyone know how to tell if a 744 has been through the mod line and has the lie-flat seats yet?

Thanks.
The modded planes hold fewer seats total than the unmodded ones.

Unmodded planes hold 393 and modded hold 376.

I think that would be a pretty big giveaway.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:21 AM
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I don't know if it's the schedulers or the categories, but I sure can't complain about the short calls for the SEA A330 captains for Aug or Sep. We have two departures a day and three captains on short call. Every time I check all the short call pilots have at least 6 days of availability - none of this 1 day of availability stuff.

I'd still much rather be on a regular line.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
The modded planes hold fewer seats total than the unmodded ones.

Unmodded planes hold 393 and modded hold 376.

I think that would be a pretty big giveaway.
Under NWA the 744 held 400+ pax. Have we shrunk them twice?
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:30 AM
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Under NWA the 744 held 400+ pax. Have we shrunk them twice?
I originally typed 403 because that was the seat count then. I checked around, and with the economy comfort mod it dropped it to 393.

Then the lie flat suite mod dropped it another 20 seats. I guess they make up for it with the premiums? (super premiums? )
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
The modded planes hold fewer seats total than the unmodded ones.

Unmodded planes hold 393 and modded hold 376.

I think that would be a pretty big giveaway.
Great, I can work with that. Thanks Clamp!
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I originally typed 403 because that was the seat count then. I checked around, and with the economy comfort mod it dropped it to 393.

Then the lie flat suite mod dropped it another 20 seats. I guess they make up for it with the premiums? (super premiums? )
That's right! Economy Comfort would've dropped it.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Back in the stone ages, when we had bid sheets and a slightly different reserve system, your first day on call was always a short call day. I liked it because you could plan around it, you knew you were definately going to be on SC those days.

In addition to those SC days, they could put you on SC a few more per month, up to 6 total. If you were a commuter, you would call them ahead and tell them you were going to be in base for that first day, and ask them to put you on SC for the following day, so you wouldn't have to make too many trips to base.

I haven't had to sit reserve under the PBS system, but what do you guys think about going back to that 'first day on call is always SC' type system?

Or perhaps being able to bid all your SC days, just like bidding X days?
SC on day one for a commuter really stinks because you then have to commute in on your day off. At my previous job they couldn't give you a SC assignment prior to noon on your first day so that you did not have to commute on a day off. I think that would be good. An early SC on your first day of availability is not fun.
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