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Old 09-07-2012, 03:20 PM
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oh wait, he means turboprops too doesn't he?

I forgot all about that silliness.
Quick someone tell Alaska and Horizon how silly they are.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Ok, lets change the direction of the discussion.

Here is the question proposed; What Items do you want improved or changed in our current PWA?

We may have more than just the FT/DT LOA to improve our PWA across multiple sections, and now is the time to start forward looking on what items we want to pinpoint and then discuss.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Psst...we don't have any DC-10's or B727's anymore....

Whodathunk! 30 year old airplanes might get parked (the first of the 757's turn 30 in 2014)!

100 B737-900
88 B717
49 (total) MD-90

Yup, some airplanes might get parked...

Hmmmm....

Is 796 greater than 722?

Is 425 less than 619?
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr
Quick someone tell Alaska and Horizon how silly they are.
You realize you got debunked in the TA threads with this one? Or you just choosing to forget about that?

But feel free to go ahead and tell us all about the expensive to own and operate Q400s that we were going to order...

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Old 09-07-2012, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr
You are incorrect. The old PWA had no limits on the number of 70-seat aircraft Delta could operate at DCI.


What 76drvr is trying to say is that the company could have gotten unlimited 70 seat props.... even though they parked all their 70 seat props a few years ago and have no desire to get new ones.

It was good that they wrapped that clause up on the powerplant, but like most other things with the TA, the givebacks (i.e. gaining 70 jumbo RJs without having to park any 70-seat jets, which of course the company wants) make good effort on outweighing the gains.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp


What 76drvr is trying to say is that the company could have gotten unlimited 70 seat props.... even though they parked all their 70 seat props a few years ago and have no desire to get new ones.

It was good that they wrapped that clause up on the powerplant, but like most other things with the TA, the givebacks (i.e. gaining 70 jumbo RJs without having to park any 70-seat jets, which of course the company wants) make good effort on outweighing the gains.
I might be easily convinced to trade in all 325 jumbo RJs for unlimited ATR 72s.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
And.........? Don't tell me you are falling victim to ftb's points. I thought you were smarter than that.
The real qestion is why did we get a fast tracked contract. The RJs don't fully explain it - unless...

You tell us since you think you've got it figured out.

It sure as hell didn't have anything to do with 717s.

Splain us how smart you are.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Note that the projected fleet count is well below what it would have had to be for DCI to get 70 more jumbo RJs.

88 growth airplanes? Nope! Only a few more than what we had when we merged.
Are you sure about that? I count 791 as the number that would authorize 70 more 76-seat RJs. But math in public is hazardous. So what number do you get to that would authorize 70 more 76-seat RJs?

Of course under the old contract they could immediately park the mainline airplanes after delivery and there was no block hour ratio.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
Ah, Bill.....How I've missed you.
Who's Bill?
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:37 PM
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Okay let me be a bit more specific. When is the window that is open today, August 07, 2012, going to close...
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