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09-07-2012, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kiteflyer

Also, word from the school house is that we are "retiring" 50 A-319's over the next three years as they "time out".

Where is the "growth"??

Did you get your schoolhouse "word" from J Fielding's "big announcment?"

The fleet book lists 722 mainline aircraft on property. The SEC filing says 796 mainlin aircraft by 2015. That's an increase of 74 mainline jets, or 10% in the next 28 months.

There's the growth.

Oh, and the same SEC presentation shows DCI shrinking to 425 frames.

76Drvr had it right.

09-07-2012, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kiteflyer

Word from the Management road shows is no hiring until late 2013 early 2014.
, word from the school house is that we are "retiring" 50 A-319's over the next three years as they "time out".

Where is the "growth"??

I think hiring totally depends on the economy. We could hire 1000 pilots in the next two years or 0. It totally depends on what the all knowing Network terds decide to do.

The 319s are some of our youngest aircraft. They won't be retiring those anytime soon. We do have some older 320s, but I doubt they'll park 50 of them.

09-07-2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by johnso29

The 319s are some of our youngest aircraft. They won't be retiring those anytime soon. We do have some older 320s, but I doubt they'll park 50 of them.

The truth is in the CASM numbers. If I have time I'll look them up and post.

09-07-2012, 07:32 AM

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The truth is in the CASM numbers. If I have time I'll look them up and post.

Look at the CASM on the B717. We're still getting 88 of them. And to date, no additional 76 seaters. The 319 fills a gap. Just like the DC9 that has been given multiple extensions on its retirement date.

09-07-2012, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by johnso29

The 319s are some of our youngest aircraft. They won't be retiring those anytime soon. We do have some older 320s, but I doubt they'll park 50 of them.

I can't remember the exact number but about 40-50 A320's are slated to be replaced by 737-9's

09-07-2012, 07:32 AM

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Yes, your right. 320's are older. I hope they all stay and the retirement rumor is just that. I don't know if they have life extensions available or not.

I really do hope we see significant hiring soon. I hope the mainline numbers grow as shown in previous posts.

I have the worst schedule and associated quality of life that I have had in many years. I hope my family hangs in there until I can be based back at home. Displacements sucks. Commuting sucks. Reserve sucks. This job sucks right now. (rant over)

09-07-2012, 07:34 AM

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Something that is interesting to me is that Compass has 45 poolies currently with the goal of 100 by years end. If Delta wasnt planning on taking flows why would they be hiring so much? One would think both Management teams would be in constant contact about the flows. I doubt Compass would want to waste their time hiring everyone for nothing. They did get a heads up that flows would happen by the end of the year, if that changed wouldn't they stop hiring?

09-07-2012, 07:37 AM

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I can't remember the exact number but about 40-50 A320's are slated to be replaced by 737-9's

By what official document? Someone fabricated this number, it spread like wildfire and everyone treats it as official word.

09-07-2012, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by groundstop

I can't remember the exact number but about 40-50 A320's are slated to be replaced by 737-9's

We have 57 A319's, the oldest being a 1999 model.

We have 69 A320's, the oldest being a 1990 model.

So...I think some of the older A320's were always slated to be replaced by 737-900ER's.

And recall that the company was looking at existing A319's in lieu of 717's if Southwest's deal wasn't good enough.