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Old 09-04-2012, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
It still doesn't make his statement not downright stupid. All the early outs have gone to the same age range, so 300 would be better than 191. As per your example, this "bump" will evaporate over 3-5 years... and to top it off, they didn't backfill beyond one layer either.

My seniority number has gone up, but I'm more junior than I was in 2008.
My seniorty number when I was hired was 2226 in August of 85, now its 2500+. My, isn't that nice???
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JABDIP
My seniorty number when I was hired was 2226 in August of 85, now its 2500+. My, isn't that nice???
I wish I had 9000+ come in under me. Are you really complaining? Would you be happier if you were 1 of 2226?
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
I wish I had 9000+ come in under me. Are you really complaining? Would you be happier if you were 1 of 2226?
Its all relative to how long you have been here. 27 years is a long time to be around and still not even be down to the number you were hired at. Also, moving down on equipment is no fun as well, but that is life. You may not realize it, but we are a shrinking airline and will be for sometime into the future. I hope you face better circumstances when you hit your 27 year mark, you never know what the next hurdle is in this business.
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
I wish I had 9000+ come in under me. Are you really complaining? Would you be happier if you were 1 of 2226?
He's probably not too happy that guys hired after him are in the very low 300's.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JABDIP
My seniorty number when I was hired was 2226 in August of 85, now its 2500+. My, isn't that nice???
This is way different in terms of longevity and such so don't take it as a "me too!" but I always thought it was funny that when I was hired at Continental Express I was around 1,100. When I upgraded to Captain four years later I was around 1,200 or 1,300... and we didn't even merge. Odd?


Well he had flow backs from Continental. Where they got to fly their own replacement jets.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:05 PM
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Are we done talking about the crack spread?

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Old 09-04-2012, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
AA pilots' contract has been abrogated by the judge this afternoon.

Judge lets American Airlines toss out its pilots contract | Airline Biz Blog
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Superdad
Am I the only who thinks this is one LOA that should not just be negotiated and signed without pilot input?

Contact your reps people, let them know that you want to be involved in this process before its signed without our knowledge!

I agree. I thought LOA 29; Scheduling Optimization, should have gone to MEMRAT too. It would have passed, but that was hardly the reason I pushed for it.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:16 PM
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It's gonna be a s l o w autum in Dallas..........
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Good analysis. And that's just for a start.

I've been burned over, and over, and over by interpretations on what a proposed change might yield in catual results. I've come to prefer language that does what I hope for, vs. language that sounds like it might work for me, depending on who is interpreting.

It's a post-racial world out there. I'm comfortable with black-and-white cohabitating, especially in contractual language.

There is a lot more at stake but this was just off the top of my head. It will be one of the biggest LOA's we have seen since LOA 46/51
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