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Old 09-03-2012, 06:15 PM
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Have not heard that no furloughs were the quid for the concessions. Doesn't make sense either way. I know it was tic but putting it out there.

As for this deal, well, we bought it, and now it's ours. Was told that the FTDT loa starts negotiation October. That right there could cut as many if not more jobs than the TA.

As for how it's was sold or not sold, take that up with the current reps and those that work for them.
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Every rep I've spoken to views the upcoming FTDT negotiations as a way to make gains, not as a path to give concessions in any way, shape or form.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Every rep I've spoken to views the upcoming FTDT negotiations as a way to make gains, not as a path to give concessions in any way, shape or form.
Kind of like there were no concessions in any way, shape, or form in the TA?
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Every rep I've spoken to views the upcoming FTDT negotiations as a way to make gains, not as a path to give concessions in any way, shape or form.
One change could cost 200+ fo augmentation jobs.

Also, Shiz, I hope it is net positive and not marginally. Things like Fo rotation guarantee upon assignment are ways to make sure that reroutes are not the only way they deal with duty limit issues. In that regard reroute pay needs to be improved for domestic and international.

Nine hrs unaugmented and ULH rules could cause a lot of gains to be negated.

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Old 09-03-2012, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Kind of like there were no concessions in any way, shape, or form in the TA?
Just curious, do you have a test to tell you if the AFU is, AFU'd on the Airbus? Of course if your BPCU is AFU, you would not know the AFU is AFU'd. Given that SN if AFU, do your first confirm SNAFU status?

Not that I could hold the "Noah's Ark of the North." It's senior in Atlanta.

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Old 09-03-2012, 06:49 PM
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One change could cost 200+ fo augmentation jobs.
Great news, get the timing right and someone could score the displacement Superfecta to the 717! What are the odds?
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Just curious, do you have a test to tell you if the AFU is, AFU'd on the Airbus? Of course if your BPCU is AFU, you would not know the AFU is AFU'd. Given that SN if AFU, do your first confirm SNAFU status?
The AFU test is a simple function of the POS through the SOB. If the SOB diagnostic confirms FUPM, and the SNAFU control indicates MILF, then it can be confirmed that the AFU is in the normal STFD mode.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:52 PM
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Great news, get the timing right and someone could score the displacement Superfecta to the 717! What are the odds?


Yeah, hi... I'm going to have to ask you to come down to the school house on Saturday for uh.. your A-period.

+717!
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
The AFU test is a simple function of the POS through the SOB. If the SOB diagnostic confirms FUPM, and the SNAFU control indicates MILF, then it can be confirmed that the AFU is in the normal STFD mode.
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:09 PM
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Yeah, hi... I'm going to have to ask you to come down to the school house on Saturday for uh.. your A-period.

+717!
An MD88 with the overhead of an MD11 and surplus engines from a business jet. What could possibly go wrong?

The manager of fleet planning must have "bring a trailer" as a default search term,
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
An MD88 with the overhead of an MD11 and surplus engines from a business jet. What could possibly go wrong?

The manager of fleet planning must have "bring a trailer" as a default search term,
Don't be fooled. It's an outside of the box play on aluminum. ETF's are so yesterday.
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