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Old 09-03-2012, 01:05 PM
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If, continue, could, as early? You take all that as a statement they were going to hire? We read it very differently. I read it as hiring is possible in the 4th quarter depending on a bunch of things. That statement is correct. Hiring is possible. The block hour plan will decide if its needed.
All is not lost however. I have a investment deal for you. Send me 10 grand. I will make you some money, If there is no economic downturn, unanticipated event, I execute my trading plan then I might make a profit for you as early as next Spring. Are you in?
All very true, but yet not a peep of criticism about the company's method of wooing some yes votes out of people with this ploy? You're right, it did have a lot of outs for SD to back away from it (heck, he doesn't even have to do that; it's just never mentioned again). So forgive me if I didn't buy the other propaganda being thrown my way about the TA like it creating a need for pilots, how scope was improved, etc., etc., etc.
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DLpilot
News brief dated June 8 direct quote.

If Delta can continue to execute its business plan, including the 717s, and barring an economic downturn or other unanticipated event, we could begin the hiring process as early as the last quarter of this year.*****

That statement was filled with a bunch qualifiers. Whomever took that to mean definite hiring needs to buy some beachfront property in AZ.
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
That statement was filled with a bunch qualifiers. Whomever took that to mean definite hiring needs to buy some beachfront property in AZ.
I don't think anyone took it to be definite due to the qualifiers... however it was certainly a very low way of trying to get votes for the TA.
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I don't think anyone took it to be definite due to the qualifiers... however it was certainly a very low way of trying to get votes for the TA.

Shack. It certainly didn't add to SD's credibility, and it's a helluva long way from "good faith".
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I don't think anyone took it to be definite due to the qualifiers... however it was certainly a very low way of trying to get votes for the TA.

I second that. it was just odd that management would join in the sales job given what a great deal they'd gotten if we had said no. What was it? Guaranteed five years without a raise?
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I don't think anyone took it to be definite due to the qualifiers... however it was certainly a very low way of trying to get votes for the TA.
Honestly some may have. By the time we are back to the table like this, many will have forgotten all about it. It servd a purpose.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:21 PM
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
That statement was filled with a bunch qualifiers. Whomever took that to mean definite hiring needs to buy some beachfront property in AZ.
That would be most of the MEC and 63% of the pilots and Bill Lumberg. PT Barnum was an advisor for management.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:51 PM
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Any RAW gurus know much a week of vacation will bump up your RAW score?
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Old 09-03-2012, 03:02 PM
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Any RAW gurus know much a week of vacation will bump up your RAW score?
18 RAW for 1 week or vacation
4 additional days off for 1 "week of vacation" (16 vs 12)

Woohoo!

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