acl65pilot

Might be because the airlines and A4A specifically are paying for it. Might be a ploy to get the major to eat all of the cost.

tsquare

Gotcha... Coming in 5 by 5. yuck.

tsquare

So you would rather the most senior... oldest... 300 left rather than the 191 more youthful group that DID leave? Yeah, I think he's serious and he has a great point. You might want to revisit your stance on that one.

tsquare

In a way you are right. So you must then apply the exact same logic and stop the biyatching about age 65. It only delayed your upgrades. I'm good either way. Your relative seniority is due more to the merger and the economy than any of this other stuff.

tsquare

I don't get this kind of thought. I saw the same nonsense from all the talking heads on CNBC when the deal was announced. Anybody that applied any common sense to this would realize that DAL was not gonna run the refinery, but rather own the end product.. which happens to be our largest expense, and is.. control wise.. usually in stick shaker. The move was pure genius. We will get a taste of that hopefully at the end of this month when some of that starts showing up on the bottom line.

tsquare

Did you really post that, or did you forget to logoff on a company computer. Please say it was the latter.

If not... GROW UP

Dirtdiver

Perhaps they're rolling the bones that age 65 rule will be raised

We had some Tristar capts take FE seats hoping age 60 would go away.

sailingfun

Who told you they were going to hire in June? I have never seen anything put out by the company stating that. I have seen the following however put out over and over again. "We will decide on the possiblilty of hiring later this year based on the summer 13 marketing plan". That plan is still not out. When its out you can ask me and I will tell you if we will hire or not.
If I had to answer before the plan comes out I would say we will not hire. The worldwide economy is in the toilet. I don't see marketing pushing for any increases in block hours. The 717's and 737-900 don't really figure into the block hour plan much until the summer of 14. That is also when we really start seeing DCI block hours shifted to the mainline.
Keep in mind that Delta more so then other airlines has a huge debt problem mainly revolving around retirement. They carry that debt off the books. That is why the huge push to reduce on the books debt. Feeding that monster requires lots of cash. We can't afford any reduction in yield hence have to maintain more capacity restraint then other airlines.
Sooner or later a market share war will break out. When it does Delta will add capacity like the others. The industry will then resume its boom and bust cycle.

sailingfun

I don't work for ALPA in any way shape or form. I am however smart enough to look things up if I want answers. You can view all the retirements both RMA and normal on Delta net.

DLpilot

News brief dated June 8 direct quote.

If Delta can continue to execute its business plan, including the 717s, and barring an economic downturn or other unanticipated event, we could begin the hiring process as early as the last quarter of this year.*****