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Old 09-01-2012, 06:40 PM
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Not a grammar nazi, but you must be posting on an iphone because you keep saying moo point and it is moot point. I know I've had my share of misspellings.

On the 777, senior reserves skate out of short call and callouts too. Junior reserves do 6 sc's a month.

I think readily available pilots are gold to schedulers in every category...I think they'd like to have everyone live in base and be on s/c 24/7.

Being on reserve can be a good deal - like you had last winter. It can also be a bad deal because daily credit stinks - hard time is hard to come by domestically on reserve - the deck is stacked against you. I have had domestic months like Elvis had and I was younger. They still kicked my butt. Put yourself in the miserable shoes of a commuting reserve narrowbody domestic pilot.

The only thing a domestic reserve pilot can hope for is to not work, but we all know hope rarely materializes into reality.
Exactly. I've never been senior at anything at Delta other than reserve, for awhile. Our current system, on both counts, reserve and regular, is the best I've seen since I was hired in early 2001. Unlike then, now I'm tempted to bid reserve because my QOL will be better than where I sit as a junior line holder. That opens up lines for junior guys. The grass is always greener, I know, but c'mon guys.
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Not a grammar nazi, but you must be posting on an iphone because you keep saying moo point and it is moot point. I know I've had my share of misspellings.

On the 777, senior reserves skate out of short call and callouts too. Junior reserves do 6 sc's a month.

I think readily available pilots are gold to schedulers in every category...I think they'd like to have everyone live in base and be on s/c 24/7.

Being on reserve can be a good deal - like you had last winter. It can also be a bad deal because daily credit stinks - hard time is hard to come by domestically on reserve - the deck is stacked against you. I have had domestic months like Elvis had and I was younger. They still kicked my butt. Put yourself in the miserable shoes of a commuting reserve narrowbody domestic pilot.

The only thing a domestic reserve pilot can hope for is to not work, but we all know hope rarely materializes into reality.




I have to say, I did 3 years of reserve under the raw system and have been under this system since it started. Long call under the old system in my view was better for more pilots and the same QOL for senior pilots. SC under the new system is better for all pilots.

I've been on the horn with DALPA about this since January and basically their reply is this:
  • 80 raw score represents 5 or 6 days flying and a short call and that is why we will stick with it. It's low enough.
  • This implementation was exactly designed to bring seniority back into the reserve system.
  • Under the old reserve system senior pilots did not fly for weeks and junior pilots broke guarantee on a regular basis. The company wanted to equal this situation out hence the RUO/RAW system, but that relegated seniority out of the system, the SOT was directed to correct it, company said no, SOT pushed for YS to a point or as far as we could.
  • Upon reply80 raw score is not too high, it only represents 5 or 6 days of flying plus a short call.

See that part about the company wanting to equal out the situation? I think they will figure out a way making it a... well... I mean who cares what a cow thinks?

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Old 09-01-2012, 06:44 PM
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Thread tangent: our long layover hotel in SFO is a youth hostel. Nice location but.........
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Thread tangent: our long layover hotel in SFO is a youth hostel. Nice location but.........
but.... hot young jailbait stickerboob??


I did the long OAK layover last night... looong van ride this morning, and even better the van driver fell asleep at the wheel this morning. When he woke up he jumped and jerked the wheel to the right. I think we all thought we were gone. The FA in front of me was the only one not wearing a seatbelt.... he quickly donned it.
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
but.... hot young jailbait stickerboob??


I did the long OAK layover last night... looong van ride this morning, and even better the van driver fell asleep at the wheel this morning. When he woke up he jumped and jerked the wheel to the right. I think we all thought we were gone. The FA in front of me was the only one not wearing a seatbelt.... he quickly donned it.
No hot young jaibait...AND we had the same van driver. He told us he had an early pickup in OAK after he dropped us off. Was it early AM? Because it was for us after doing s-turns from Utah to SFO at 1 am.
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
but.... hot young jailbait stickerboob??


I did the long OAK layover last night... looong van ride this morning, and even better the van driver fell asleep at the wheel this morning. When he woke up he jumped and jerked the wheel to the right. I think we all thought we were gone. The FA in front of me was the only one not wearing a seatbelt.... he quickly donned it.
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No hot young jaibait...AND we had the same van driver. He told us he had an early pickup in OAK after he dropped us off. Was it early AM? Because it was for us after doing s-turns from Utah to SFO at 1 am.
Just for fun, tell them you worked for Clinton.
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Just for fun, tell them you worked for Clinton.
Yeah.....that doesn't work any more.
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
but.... hot young jailbait stickerboob??
...that smells like cheese and dirty clothes.

You've never stayed in a yoot hostel have you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Aei6w5m8eA&feature=fvsr
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
but.... hot young jailbait stickerboob??


I did the long OAK layover last night... looong van ride this morning, and even better the van driver fell asleep at the wheel this morning. When he woke up he jumped and jerked the wheel to the right. I think we all thought we were gone. The FA in front of me was the only one not wearing a seatbelt.... he quickly donned it.
Lol-good to have lots of insurance. It's not what we do that will kill us, but what others do. As folks say, the most dangerous part of air travel is the ride to the airport.
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