Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-01-2012, 09:04 AM
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Buzz has first-hand experience, so he would know best about this. President Clinton was very friendly with the military when Hilary wasn't around, but Hilary had a huge dislike for the military as First Lady, requiring the military to wear civvies in the West Wing. Al Gore had an elitist distain for military members who were beneath him, in his eyes. Bush 41 and 43 were always friendly and respectful with the military. Can't speak to Obama - the latest issue is the auto-signing of letters to families of Navy SEALS who died in the line of duty. Donald Rumsfeld auto-signed and was harshly rebuked.
I think Obama has been following protocol. There was a time during the 2008 campaign where he was criticized for not wearing an American flag lapel pin and for not putting his hand over his heart during the national anthem.
I think Obama has been following protocol. There was a time during the 2008 campaign where he was criticized for not wearing an American flag lapel pin and for not putting his hand over his heart during the national anthem.
09-01-2012, 09:09 AM
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Buzz has first-hand experience, so he would know best about this. President Clinton was very friendly with the military when Hilary wasn't around, but Hilary had a huge dislike for the military as First Lady, requiring the military to wear civvies in the West Wing. Al Gore had an elitist distain for military members who were beneath him, in his eyes. Bush 41 and 43 were always friendly and respectful with the military. Can't speak to Obama - the latest issue is the auto-signing of letters to families of Navy SEALS who died in the line of duty. Donald Rumsfeld auto-signed and was harshly rebuked.
I think Obama has been following protocol. There was a time during the 2008 campaign where he was criticized for not wearing an American flag lapel pin and for not putting his hand over his heart during the national anthem.
I think Obama has been following protocol. There was a time during the 2008 campaign where he was criticized for not wearing an American flag lapel pin and for not putting his hand over his heart during the national anthem.
09-01-2012, 09:13 AM
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Travelnet Question
hey Guys,
One of my non-dependent kids just traveled Atl/Sea on a 3B yield fare , round trip. She missed the return leg, and when I went to the travelnet to re-book her return leg, The entire record locator had been removed.
I had to pay another yield fare to book her return leg, and I can find NO way to apply for a refund on the original return leg. I have been to the travel history page, and everywhere else I can think of....no luck.
ESC is closed on the weekend.......any ideas, or info would be appreciated .
Thanks,
BG
One of my non-dependent kids just traveled Atl/Sea on a 3B yield fare , round trip. She missed the return leg, and when I went to the travelnet to re-book her return leg, The entire record locator had been removed.
I had to pay another yield fare to book her return leg, and I can find NO way to apply for a refund on the original return leg. I have been to the travel history page, and everywhere else I can think of....no luck.
ESC is closed on the weekend.......any ideas, or info would be appreciated .
Thanks,
BG
09-01-2012, 09:42 AM
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As a very junior block holder, I would like to fix the inequity of QOL between lineholders. I live in base and hate 5 day trips. Unfortunately, that is typically what my seniority can hold. My QOL would be much better if I could have some of those turns, but only the stinking top 10% get them. Maybe as we are fixing the reserve QOL program we could take care of this too.
09-01-2012, 09:43 AM
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09-01-2012, 09:48 AM
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Correct. It was a charter. They went from TCL to DFW and brought then airplane empty to ATL.
09-01-2012, 10:42 AM
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Many if not most pilots on long term Mil leave are there on a voluntary basis. They are staying on active duty in order to get their 20 years in for government retirement. At that point they can return to Delta and Delta is required to figure out a assumed earnings number for pay while they were gone and reimburse them all retirement money they missed at Delta and pay interest on that amount. Its a pretty good deal if you can work the timing. You come back to Delta perhaps now a Captain with a full military retirement and medical you are drawing on 7at the same time plus full reimbursement for any Delta retirement you missed. Delta has been very generous in not enforcing the 5 year rule on mil leave to allow this to happen. Other employers have enforced the rule.
I look forward to coming back.
FTS.
09-01-2012, 10:43 AM
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09-01-2012, 11:15 AM
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Sorry for a drift here guys, but this has been buggin me. Obama did not return the salute given to him by his Marine guard plane side (at the helocopter) yesterday. What is the protocol for the President, and if a return is not required, shouldn't it be offered as a signal of courtesy and respect for the USMC? Cheers...H
09-01-2012, 11:15 AM
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I believe Delta enforces the law to the letter. I fall in this situation and had a conversation with a CP last summer who is the final authority on mil lv issues. There are many types of orders written that are exempt from the 5 yr limit if they support the GWOT; these allow someone to stay on mil lv beyond 5 yrs.
I look forward to coming back.
FTS.
I look forward to coming back.
FTS.
Not whining ... but it astounds me how much money the retired military / senior Captains at Delta have. A few guys I fly with are $2.5 to $4 million and a little handful have done better than that with astute (or lucky) investment choices.
I just want to ask, "can I come live in your guest house, Captain?"
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