Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Denny,
Thanks. For what its worth we hear a lot of anecdotal stories about junior guys being abused by the new system but I have yet to see anyone skeptical of the system post a whole categories worth of numbers late in any month showing this.
I have seen plenty of posts (including my own) showing the system is doing a good job spreading out flying but only "stories" to the contrary.
A category showing a lot of junior guys with Raw scores well over 80 and a lot of senior guys with zero would go a long way to convincing guys the system needs to be fixed.
Scoop
Thanks. For what its worth we hear a lot of anecdotal stories about junior guys being abused by the new system but I have yet to see anyone skeptical of the system post a whole categories worth of numbers late in any month showing this.
I have seen plenty of posts (including my own) showing the system is doing a good job spreading out flying but only "stories" to the contrary.
A category showing a lot of junior guys with Raw scores well over 80 and a lot of senior guys with zero would go a long way to convincing guys the system needs to be fixed.
Scoop
flight hours comes closer to showing work but even then I'd argue when you are called out a trip then most of the time you have little control over whether you're flying a 23 hour four day or a 15 hour four day, or a 8 hour day trip of a deadhead to a 1 hour flight to a deadhead home.
what i'd like to see if days worked off LC plus SCs sat plus days worked off SC.
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actually I've had a few conversations about it with the union and can post the summary when I get back to the computer.
my question is do you want a system that requires you to be in the top 70% of a category to have decent QOL or one that says if your okay with being on reserve you can have a pretty good QOL even at 90% in category?
FTB,
Good discussion and you bring up many good points. All of which however, have valid counterpoints. To answer you question above - my answer remains the same: I would rather have a system that gives the best QOL to the most pilots.
So why stop at the reserve Pilots - why not spread QOL out amongst all pilots. When I bid a line every Pilot above me is awarded at least three rotations before I can pick my first. Extrapolating your logic to lineholders, why not every pilot pick a single rotation in seniority order, then when every line-holder has his "Primary" rotation you go back and the most senior Pilot picks his second rotation and so down the seniority list until all the line-holders are finished?
Wouldn't this also be a way of ensuring that the top 70% of line-holders get a better QOL than just the first 1/3 getting great lines, the second 1/3 doing OK and the bottom 1/3 getting the scraps?
Like I say, you bring up many good points but one Pilots scheduling improvement is often another Pilots scheduling degradation. The current system is a result of numerous adjustments over the years some changes increasing the power of seniority other changes decreasing it.
The only thing that remains the same is that as soon as the changes are implemented the group that perceives themselves to be harmed by the new rules gets mad as Hell. I have no doubt this refinement process will continue, and it should, but it should be based on the analysis of a substantial amount of hard data covering all the domiciles and all the equipment.
Scoop
Does this mean an American - US Air merger is a fait accompli?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/01/bu...r=yahoofinance
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/01/bu...r=yahoofinance
Fwiw many carriers have signed one with AMR. ALK and British Airways to name a few.
I saw a Delta 757 land in TCL (Tuscaloosa, AL) today. Why?
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the game is in Dallas, Michigan left from DTW earlier I think. They were probably picking up Bama
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I used to. I always parked in the landside portion of the Camp Creek lot and rode the bus to the terminal to clear security. Ran that by the CPO during all the TSA catching commuters bypassing security crackdown and they said it was fine. Technically you can also park in the secure side of the lot, ride the bus to A, haul all your stuff out to the terminal, and clear security before commuting, but why bother?
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Super -
I appreciate your effort, I really do. I think we all do. And I'm not taking anything away from dipstick girl. On any given Sunday, she would be a fine contribution.
But unfortunately, you have posted on Vandy Candy Sticker Boob Friday, which has clearly overshadowed your offering.
Try again next Thursday.
V/R,
Jughead
I appreciate your effort, I really do. I think we all do. And I'm not taking anything away from dipstick girl. On any given Sunday, she would be a fine contribution.
But unfortunately, you have posted on Vandy Candy Sticker Boob Friday, which has clearly overshadowed your offering.
Try again next Thursday.
V/R,
Jughead
At least the paltry amount I did see there was sticker-free, but still.....
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