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Old 08-30-2012, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123
Between Europe shrinking and now Japan flying, guess the 717 will go senior, ;(. Sounds like you think we are in a bad spot.

No, I think DAL is in a position to exploit a few options.

They are looking for our help on HND. It serves us to keep service in an area where we could see a CS or JV and when that happens the flying would be harder to regain. Keeping block time on Transpacs=pilots jobs= good for DAL pilots.

Asia is growing, and Europe stinks. Why fight or not contribute to something that helps keep senior pilots in their current seats. Its good for every DAL pilot to keep a route on a very slot restricted airport?
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by The Cavalier
I think he's saying be cautious in what you wish for. In other words forcing our hand to keep an unsuccessful DTW-HND 744 route may have more negative consequences to the pilot group than shuffling the slot to SEA and down gauging the equipment.

BINGO. Not the item to push your will on. It helps us keep international block hrs. Easy decision and it takes a few minutes to do. Duh!
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
No, I think DAL is in a position to exploit a few options.

They are looking for our help on HND. It serves us to keep service in an area where we could see a CS or JV and when that happens the flying would be harder to regain. Keeping block time on Transpacs=pilots jobs= good for DAL pilots.

Asia is growing, and Europe stinks. Why fight or not contribute to something that helps keep senior pilots in their current seats. Its good for every DAL pilot to keep a route on a very slot restricted airport?
Yep...sent mine in...takes seconds...easy support. Whether you are grumpy ****ed or not...it's in your best interest.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:03 AM
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Yep...sent mine in...takes seconds...easy support. Whether you are grumpy ****ed or not...it's in your best interest.

Correct. Our interests align with the company's on this issue. We supported the request for the slots, wouldn't it be stupid to no support keeping the block hrs?
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
No, I think DAL is in a position to exploit a few options.

They are looking for our help on HND. It serves us to keep service in an area where we could see a CS or JV and when that happens the flying would be harder to regain. Keeping block time on Transpacs=pilots jobs= good for DAL pilots.

Asia is growing, and Europe stinks. Why fight or not contribute to something that helps keep senior pilots in their current seats. Its good for every DAL pilot to keep a route on a very slot restricted airport?
China's economy has levelled out for the time being. It has actually contracted a bit over the past two months.

That said, China has 20+ cities with over 10 million people each. There is certainly expansion opportunity there. I have heard we are looking at adding Guangzao (sp?) (even while we pull back in Hong Kong) Apparently, Guangzao is just over the "border" from HK.

Is anyone hearing any other Asia expansion cities? I am not.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
China's economy has levelled out for the time being. It has actually contracted a bit over the past two months.

That said, China has 20+ cities with over 10 million people each. There is certainly expansion opportunity there. I have heard we are looking at adding Guangzao (sp?) (even while we pull back in Hong Kong) Apparently, Guangzao is just over the "border" from HK.

Is anyone hearing any other Asia expansion cities? I am not.

Guangzao was a route NW formerly flew out of NRT. Started with a 757 then went to 330. The city is a huge manufacturing destination for first world companies looking for cheap labor. When the recession started NW dropped it due to low demand of the manufacturing sector. I think UAL even had a 747 or 777 going direct from the mainland. It would be good to return there.

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Old 08-30-2012, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
China's economy has levelled out for the time being. It has actually contracted a bit over the past two months.

That said, China has 20+ cities with over 10 million people each. There is certainly expansion opportunity there. I have heard we are looking at adding Guangzao (sp?) (even while we pull back in Hong Kong) Apparently, Guangzao is just over the "border" from HK.

Is anyone hearing any other Asia expansion cities? I am not.

I have heard that too. In fact the rumor I heard was that China was the one that requested us to serve it. We will see if we ever start it.

There are a lot of opportunities in Asia. We are seeing steady progress in Asia.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:51 AM
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Anyone know what happens on the 5th?

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Old 08-30-2012, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
+1: I cant believe there are only 40 schedulers for 12000 pilots. Talk about STRESS

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Yea, never understood that. NWA had the same number of schedulers for half the pilots and they had far more automation working for them, to boot.

Except for the whole PENTRY thing at midnight. I never understood why they kept that manual process while using automation everywhere else.

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Old 08-30-2012, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
China's economy has levelled out for the time being. It has actually contracted a bit over the past two months.

That said, China has 20+ cities with over 10 million people each. There is certainly expansion opportunity there. I have heard we are looking at adding Guangzao (sp?) (even while we pull back in Hong Kong) Apparently, Guangzao is just over the "border" from HK.

Is anyone hearing any other Asia expansion cities? I am not.



Yep,

Plenty of expansion opportunity. Think of all the hiring the DAL code share partners like Korean will have to do just to keep up with the DAL code share growth.

In todays environment network growth does not necessarily mean Pilot opportunity. Conversely, the old thinking that an airline cannot shrink to profitability probably no longer applies. DAL mainline can shrink as the DAL "Network" grows, all thanks to Codeshares, JVs, connection carriers etc, basically all terms describing outsourcing.

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