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Old 08-30-2012, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cni187
Yeah I called and told them right away. Good info Johnso, I've been wanting to go visit the schedulers because I spent 4 years in the AF in 2 different assignments being a scheduler. I know how it can suck.
I spent 2.5+ hours watching and chatting with the 7er B scheduler while I had some free time during 7er training. You can walk right in to the schedulers work place. It was neat to see what they deal with. I sometimes forget how many pilots the 7er B scheduler alone deals with. He/she covers SEA, LAX, SLC, MSP, DTW, ATL, and NYC dealing with sick calls, re-routes, wx events, trip coverage, SC assignment and non stop phone calls. It was this visit that stopped my being annoyed with SC assignments not being out before 1100, which obviously isn't required but that's the latest I want it. And it is all about me.

They definitely have what I consider to be a stressful job, so I appreciate how laid back they generally are.
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Old 08-30-2012, 08:44 AM
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Perhaps guys who are assigned SCs that are not in compliance with the contract or FARs should also drop a note to the DALPA scheduling committee so they can track it.

Just sayin'

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Old 08-30-2012, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I spent 2.5+ hours watching and chatting with the 7er B scheduler while I had some free time during 7er training. You can walk right in to the schedulers work place. It was neat to see what they deal with. I sometimes forget how many pilots the 7er B scheduler alone deals with. He/she covers SEA, LAX, SLC, MSP, DTW, ATL, and NYC dealing with sick calls, re-routes, wx events, trip coverage, SC assignment and non stop phone calls. It was this visit that stopped my being annoyed with SC assignments not being out before 1100, which obviously isn't required but that's the latest I want it. And it is all about me.

They definitely have what I consider to be a stressful job, so I appreciate how laid back they generally are.
+1: I cant believe there are only 40 schedulers for 12000 pilots. Talk about STRESS

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Old 08-30-2012, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
She can pound my nail......ah, too easy.
Dammit General...beer all over my screen again. You know how much I hate to waste Leffe Blond... Sir!
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by cni187
Any info on when the stock price may actually stop going down?
My opinion is that our stock has always reflected our balance sheet. We are one of the highest debt airlines out there. Wall Street knows this thus punishes our stock.

If anyone in my circle of friends had a debt/income ratio like Delta; we would call them "irresponsible". However, our mngmt team is praised .
Go look at any financial site. Our long term debt is over 40 billion dollars. We need to get this number lower and faster because UCAL is about to emerge as a solid competitor with about 18 billion dollars less debt than us.

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Old 08-30-2012, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
My opinion is that our stock has always reflected our balance sheet. We are one of the highest debt airlines out there. Wall Street knows this thus punishes our stock.

If anyone in my circle of friends had a debt/income ratio like Delta; we would call them "irresponsible". However, our mngmt team is praised .
Go look at any financial site. Our long term debt is over 40 billion dollars. We need to get this number lower and faster because UCAL is about to emerge as a solid competitor with about 18 billion dollars less debt than us.

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Yep- people often forget about the massive pension obligations going forward.
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
My opinion is that our stock has always reflected our balance sheet. We are one of the highest debt airlines out there. Wall Street knows this thus punishes our stock.

If anyone in my circle of friends had a debt/income ratio like Delta; we would call them "irresponsible". However, our mngmt team is praised .
Go look at any financial site. Our long term debt is over 40 billion dollars. We need to get this number lower and faster because UCAL is about to emerge as a solid competitor with about 18 billion dollars less debt than us.

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Where did all that debt come from? I mean, it can't ALL be from buying 600+ RJ's, can it? I know that's DAL+NW debt, but $40 Billion? Please tell me some of that is long term DB retirement payouts.

When I was hired Delta had the lowest Debt/Equity ratio in the industry, and they said that was the key ingredient to them having never lost money for a single quarter, let alone a full year, but that was 5 management teams ago.

I remember when Mo'Ron started borrowing to buy MD11's, then LEO the CEO and RJ Fred bought a zillion RJ's, our debt went through the roof.

No wonder Anderson wants to park 200 of them and is only interested in buying 'used airplanes, cheap'.

Hmmm...I wonder who's got some used 777's they might not need??
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Where did all that debt come from? I mean, it can't ALL be from buying 600+ RJ's, can it? I know that's DAL+NW debt, but $40 Billion? Please tell me some of that is long term DB retirement payouts.

When I was hired Delta had the lowest Debt/Equity ratio in the industry, and they said that was the key ingredient to them having never lost money for a single quarter, let alone a full year, but that was 5 management teams ago.

I remember when Mo'Ron started borrowing to buy MD11's, then LEO the CEO and RJ Fred bought a zillion RJ's, our debt went through the roof.

No wonder Anderson wants to park 200 of them and is only interested in buying 'used airplanes, cheap'.

Hmmm...I wonder who's got some used 777's they might not need??
Yet another problem when the involved parties look no further than block hour costs to justify outsourcing.
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:39 AM
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Don't worry, Timbo. We just let them buy another 70 top of the line RJs.
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
On a brighter note, I have been holding a line since the reserve rules changed. Hopefully that continues because if it doesn't, I'll be in the weekends off, work everyday crowd.
Well isn't someone just full of sunshine and rainbows this morning!

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