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Old 08-29-2012, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by flyover
What is INDOC? I don't remember that from NATCO.
As a 2010 hire, I did two weeks of indoctrination training in ATL followed by A320 training in NATCO at MSP. Every Capt asks me "Are you former Northwest or former Delta?", and I have to respond, "We were hired after the 2008 merger."...then confused silence ensues.

Finally the Capt says, "We hired pilots in 2010???"
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by groundstop
I think the buckets should be tweaked depending on the month. In the summer, 80 seemed to work OK. However in the fall or off-season months, it may take longer for guys to get to a raw of 80. In other words, bump it down to 60 in the off-months.
Yes, this would be a good thing.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:04 PM
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I flew with a capt last month who was adamant that Southwest were represented by ALPA. Both me and the jumpseat guy tried convincing him that they had their own in house union, SWAPA, but I don't think he really believed it. He was pointing to them as evidence of ALPA doing good stuff lol. He was a good guy and it was a fun trip, but it's indicative of how little some guys know about what's going on in this job.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
Challenge accepted.



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Old 08-29-2012, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
When I went to Pensacola and Whiting Field, videos like these played over and over on the TVs in the Officer's Club.

Before the days of YouTube, it was really cool getting to see this stuff.
Absolutely. I saw these constantly from UPT in 1982 on. Always playing in the background. Sordid but prescient.
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Old 08-30-2012, 02:52 AM
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Old 08-30-2012, 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
I think the system is pretty good. As far as no long calls and flying every day - its August!

Standing by for incoming. Fire away!

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The problem it's been this way for some of us since the change back in Feb. I agree with you that the raw score needed to reach bucket 2 should be shrunk in the lean months.
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Old 08-30-2012, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Let's set this one up.

DTW HND is losing a ton of money

We have no connecting ability out of HND AMR and UAL have JAL and ANA. Respectively.

The Japanese government wants two ANA and two JAL slots moved from NRT to HND to push all of the US bound flights out of HND leaving us at NRT two hours out of the city center

The requisite quid is moving all of our 315 weekly NRT slots to HND. The Japanese do not want that, one for space in HND and two because it does not marganize our fifth freedom rights.

By pulling a flight out of HND unilaterally it hurts the argument for the overall demand which is our flying out of HND if they agree to move the Japanese slots.

In the end if you do not want to look at this broader issue look at it this way. Move the slot or suspend the service because DTW HND is losing its shirt. Support keeps the pilot block hrs and the route. The quid is keeping the flying not a promise of growth.

The Japanese issue is a big one and a strategic loss with the slot conflict would mean jobs and some of the most sought after flying from this pilot group.
Between Europe shrinking and now Japan flying, guess the 717 will go senior, ;(. Sounds like you think we are in a bad spot.

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Old 08-30-2012, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
I flew 16 of 16 days on reserve, including one short call, and logged 79 1/2 hours of credit despite dropping two days of reserve. Just to give you an indication of the disparity under the current system.
By Aug 19th I had 78(and some change) of credit. I had off from 20-24 Aug and would you guess what? They assigned me SC on the 25th. Now, with me being a somewhat new guy not wanting to rock the boat, I commute up to NY and sit the requisite 24 hours in my crashpad. However I saw 2 greenslips handed out. I call sched and ask *** and they said well we can't use you because youre so close to guarantee. So I go home the next day and the wife and I go visit her alma mater (Auburn!! War Eagle!!) where I get another phone call from scheduling for a SC the next day. Fed up I call and say to sched that they couldn't use me and why am I getting SC? She says, "Oh yeah well lets just take that off your schedule." I think someone may have mentioned it on here before but they must let the computer randomly assign SC. Or its the seperate bucket system for SC. Who knows??
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by cni187
Any info on when the stock price may actually stop going down?
When we stop telling investors things like "capacity reductions are our leverage."

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