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Old 08-25-2012, 08:42 PM
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I never grow tired of Blue Angels photos. You can tell they're Navy because they have a second seat for Goose, or as we military guys call them, the Reo Grande.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:43 PM
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damnit, I'm going to have to go wiki and see if s-3s really sunk Iraqi ships with budy refueling pods...
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
F-15s = McDonnell Douglas
F-18s = McDonnell Douglas
F-117s = McDonnell Douglas
MD-88s = McDonnell Douglas
MD-11 = McDonnell Douglas
L1011 = McDonnell Douglas
P-51 = McDonnell Douglas
B-17 = McDonnell Douglas.


Read it and weep Bar, read it and weep.
Lockheed, my brothers, Lockheed.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:44 PM
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Partially true, but not all of the story. Carter was committed to gutting defense and the B-1 was an easy target. Reagan campaigned on a strong defense and realized the potential of stealth shortly after taking office, therefore, the B-2 and the stealth fighter. Both, also developed at Skunkworks.
B-2 was a Northrop / Grumman project. The B-1 had no mission, Carter was right, at least as far as that project went. Reagan provided jobs building something we did not need.

Do you recall how a Cessna C172 enabled Glasnost & brought down the Russian Empire?
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
B-2 was a Northrop / Grumman project. The B-1 had no mission, Carter was right, at least as far as that project went. Reagan provided jobs building something we did not need.

Do you recall how a Cessna C172 enabled Glasnost?
Rudy and Red Square? I soloed that guy.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:50 PM
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And F104. Killed more Germans than the French Resistance.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:52 PM
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damnit, I'm going to have to go wiki and see if s-3s really sunk Iraqi ships with budy refueling pods...
You can search under DB-107 Buddy Pack.

Yes, Bar, another Douglas product.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
B-2 was a Northrop / Grumman project. The B-1 had no mission, Carter was right, at least as far as that project went. Reagan provided jobs building something we did not need.
Actually, the "advanced technology bomber" project that was started under Carter and scrubbed then became the "advanced technology bomber" under Reagan that evolved into the B-2. Those jobs that Carter wanted to do away with were transitioned to jobs that developed the B-2, F-117 and C-17. It was initially a Northrop/Grumman venture that later involved Boeing and did utilize the Skunkworks. The F-117 was also born from the same research and development. Boeing, as you know, acquired MD and development for their existing projects, including today's C-17.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:58 PM
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And F104. Killed more Germans than the French Resistance.

That's funny! I remember being at Ramstein one time and they had some F104's on the ramp, one didn't look right, it was a two seater, so I walked over to get a closer look and the landing gear was a mess. I asked about it in Ops. and the local behind the desk said, "Yeah, a student had a problem landing it, went off the end..."

I think someone said final bug speed on the 104 was always over 165...?

Nice, if you have a long, dry runway!
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:02 PM
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I think someone said final bug speed on the 104 was always over 165...?

Nice, if you have a long, dry runway!
Sounds like a 737-900!

That's a McD product, right?
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