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Old 08-25-2012, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
and I heard it was the only airplane in the inventory -not- to fly in Desert Storm.

I heard it was a real POS, after Jimmy Carter got done cutting the budget for it.
The B-1 was on Nuke alert and the Navy couldn't spare them for conventional bombing in 1991. CCCP and all that.

BTW, Carter cancelling the Bone taught me my first lesson in political parties.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:28 PM
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I'd never call an Air Force guy a liar. This is what happens next...

Buzz Aldrin Punch - YouTube
I actually met Buzz Aldrin a few years ago on the set of Fox & Friends. I was honored and told him so. He wasn't very "chatty." I wasn't very "chatty" either as it was 7 AM ET and I was on 4 AM PT. Kind of like me when I'm landing at MCO at 4 AM PT. Not very chatty.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
I actually met Buzz Aldrin a few years ago on the set of Fox & Friends. I was honored and told him so. He wasn't very "chatty." I wasn't very "chatty" either as it was 7 AM ET and I was on 4 AM PT. Kind of like me when I'm landing at MCO at 4 AM PT. Not very chatty.
I'm always chatty. You should've met me instead. I'd be chatty.

But that'd be neat to meet Buzz Aldrin.

Or Newk. Or Buzzpat. Or BuckingBar. Or Boomer. Or Timbo. Or 80ktsclevage. Or ACL. Or... this might go on a long long while.

And I'd like to see a Navy B-1.

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Old 08-25-2012, 08:31 PM
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What an awesome idea.

Our kids need these types of heros.
Since he wrote "Apolo" instead of Apollo, I thought he was referring to Dancing With the Stars.

My favorite Armstrong moment was Gemini 8 when after docking they realized their capsule was out of control and running low (<30%) on fuel. Armstrong manually flew the thing out of orbit and put it in the thing in the alternate ocean.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Ben Rich, in his book about running Skunkworks for Lockheed said after Jimmy Carter was briefed in on stealth he realized the B-1 was already obsolete. Reagan made Carter look soft for cancelling the B-1. However the real difference was that Carter had a Top Secret clearance and Reagan did not. Carter could not talk about the future he knew was coming.
Partially true, but not all of the story. Carter was committed to gutting defense and the B-1 was an easy target. Reagan campaigned on a strong defense and realized the potential of stealth shortly after taking office, therefore, the B-2 and the stealth fighter. Both, also developed at Skunkworks.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
The B-1 was on Nuke alert and the Navy couldn't spare them for conventional bombing in 1991. CCCP and all that.

BTW, Carter cancelling the Bone taught me my first lesson in political parties.

And in 1981, when Reagan fired all the ATC guys, and then when Bush 1 looked the other way, while his best buddy and campaign contributer, Frank Lorenzo, took Continental and Eastern apart, taught me mine...

Fking Politicians. I hate them all, especially the ones who never served.

The best bumper sticker I've seen said,

Don't Re Elect ANYONE!

With 42,000 registered lobbiests in DC, is it any wonder we have the best Government Money Can Buy?
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
I actually met Buzz Aldrin a few years ago on the set of Fox & Friends. I was honored and told him so.
You should have given him flak for going to USMA. Like "Beat Army" or something.


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The Saturn V 3rd stage? Douglas.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
The B-1 was on Nuke alert and the Navy couldn't spare them for conventional bombing in 1991. CCCP and all that.

BTW, Carter cancelling the Bone taught me my first lesson in political parties.
Yeah, they served so well in the Coast Guard, and then in the Civil Air Patrol. Their combat record is only matched by the S3.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Yeah, they served so well in the Coast Guard, and then in the Civil Air Patrol. Their combat record is only matched by the S3.
In Desert Storm, the S-3 sunk more Iraqi ships with Buddy Refuelling Pods than all the B-1s put together.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:42 PM
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[QUOTE=Bucking Bar;1251496]Since he wrote "Apolo" instead of Apollo, I thought he was referring to Dancing With the Stars.

Hey, my spelling's bad, but my typing's Worse! Especially ater midnight, after a full day of hurricane prep, and after a few Rummies!

You want to hear something really funny? My Mom was a high school English Teacher!

I drove her to an early retirement! I was always a 'numbers' guy. BUT...when I was 8, she got her Private Pilot License, and she owned a Beech Muskateer with 3 other AF guys! I got to fly it a little from the right seat, when I was 9.
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