I really wonder about an airline where 2/3 of the pilot group deluded themselves into thinking the result of that TA could be anything but extended stagnation. The rocking chair lives.

JungleBus, what parts of your contract are better than the Delta agreement?

Tr

08-22-2012, 05:58 AM

#108212

Free Bird

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Posts: 799

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonRicco

Of course it has to be the TA and has absolutely nothing to do with less block hours, a weakening economy etc. It certainly must be the TA.

One could make the argument that over the life of the contract with all other things being equal, staffing will be down. Again, after all the Delta pilots have given, why give up items that require fewer pilots?

08-22-2012, 05:59 AM

#108213

tsquare

No longer cares

Joined APC: Mar 2008

Position: 767er Captain

Posts: 12,109

Quote:

Originally Posted by trlaketige

JungleBus, what parts of your contract are better than the Delta agreement?

Tr

Who does he fly for?

08-22-2012, 06:04 AM

#108214

CVG767A

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Joined APC: Apr 2005

Position: 767ER capt

Posts: 1,190

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleSam

So, I just want to see if there is something wrong with this site since there are no posts here for about 4 hours???

Any connection between this post and most of the posts that follow it? This thread is depressing! I hope you guys have resumes on file at better airlines.

Call me weird (or any of the things that yes voters were recently called), but I like my job. Looking around the industry, I can find other airlines that have some things better than us, but I can't see one that is an overall better place to be.

It's starting to look like the DALPA board here...

08-22-2012, 06:26 AM

#108215

FIIGMO

Sho me da money!

Joined APC: Feb 2007

Position: B25, Left

Posts: 947

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleBus

I really wonder about an airline where 2/3 of the pilot group deluded themselves into thinking the result of that TA could be anything but extended stagnation. The rocking chair lives.

Jungle,

It is real simple, go fly for another airline! You think it sucks, thats fine, go fly for another airline. You feel Delta pilots owe you something and should have been looking out for your interests? Go fly for another airline. Step back and read how your posts are coming across. Maybe it is not your intent, then maybe it is..... Just dont apply here and you wont have to worry about how bad we screwed ourselves.

08-22-2012, 06:33 AM

#108216

Rather B Fishin

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Posts: 478

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIIGMO

Thank you!! I'd like to see him bring that attitude to an interview or our jumpseats.

08-22-2012, 06:38 AM

#108217

RonRicco

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Position: Captain

Posts: 829

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Masters

So stagnation is the result of the economy? I just guessing here but if we grow and start hiring ALPA will claim it's a result of the TA. Things are bad=blame economy. Things are good=look what we did with the TA! Typical political BS

Uh yeah. Ya think if Europe were not in the tank and we were not gong to seasonal service to places like Rome, that we would not be seeing movement upwards?

We have underemployed in this country of better than 15 percent and places in Europe at 25 percent... Maybe it is just me, but this doesn't look like the sort of market where you would see large asm growth.

Now, if we were growing asm's and we were still stagnent, then maybe you could point to something else. (like the contract)

08-22-2012, 07:02 AM

#108218

sevenfiveseven

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DogWhisperer

Do you know something? :-)

08-22-2012, 07:23 AM

#108219

slowplay

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Joined APC: Feb 2008

Posts: 2,539

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin

Thank you!! I'd like to see him bring that attitude to an interview or our jumpseats.

He's one of the "entitlements" at Compass, and fairly senior at 5 years there. He'll be bringing that attitude to one of the first training classes when we do hire.

And you wonder why management doesn't like flows...