Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-19-2012, 12:06 PM
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Well, if it happens it happens, but
Unless of course USAIR still happens with AMR and they divest and we're just first in line. I kind of keep looking at United and thinking man, when they get their act together they'll be a monster. We offer NYC but it's split between LGA and JFK, they own EWR. We have DTW, they have ORD. We have SLC they have DEN. We have LAX via a codeshare, they have LAX. They have IAH and we have ATL. We may actually trump them there when you consider the population location and Florida. But IAH is a nice clean airport.
Would we ever give up LGA to consolidate in JFK?
Unless of course USAIR still happens with AMR and they divest and we're just first in line. I kind of keep looking at United and thinking man, when they get their act together they'll be a monster. We offer NYC but it's split between LGA and JFK, they own EWR. We have DTW, they have ORD. We have SLC they have DEN. We have LAX via a codeshare, they have LAX. They have IAH and we have ATL. We may actually trump them there when you consider the population location and Florida. But IAH is a nice clean airport.
Would we ever give up LGA to consolidate in JFK?
- Typical 20% reduction from 20,000 pilot list is 4,000 pilots (pure swag)
- Lots of network overlap (which we will be told does not really exist)
- Too Many Hubs (SFO, SJO, MEM, CVG, RDU ... and to some extent JFK and LAX realignment)
- Delta pilots are near (or at, depending on who you ask) industry pay scales, meaning:
- There is not a pile of money to buy labor peace while entering another decade of stagnation and potentially massive furloughs
- Whatever money there is, on a percentage basis, will do more for the group that is acquired
- Recovering AA is ALPA's advent event.
08-19-2012, 12:07 PM
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08-19-2012, 01:07 PM
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IMHO, AA, DAL means:
- Typical 20% reduction from 20,000 pilot list is 4,000 pilots (pure swag)
- Lots of network overlap (which we will be told does not really exist)
- Too Many Hubs (SFO, SJO, MEM, CVG, RDU ... and to some extent JFK and LAX realignment)
- Delta pilots are near (or at, depending on who you ask) industry pay scales, meaning:
- There is not a pile of money to buy labor peace while entering another decade of stagnation and potentially massive furloughs
- Whatever money there is, on a percentage basis, will do more for the group that is acquired
- Recovering AA is ALPA's advent event.
08-19-2012, 01:16 PM
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08-19-2012, 01:56 PM
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But just imagine the money management and the lawyers would make. We're talking private island sorta money.
08-19-2012, 02:01 PM
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I found this quote to be very interesting...............:
"Sources close to Delta have said that the carrier has conducted an anti-trust analysis and found that with some concessions, the deal could pass an anti-trust review."
Denny
Edit: Guess I should add that this is in regards to American......
"Sources close to Delta have said that the carrier has conducted an anti-trust analysis and found that with some concessions, the deal could pass an anti-trust review."
Denny
Edit: Guess I should add that this is in regards to American......
Why AMR? Why not Jetblue? (None of that pesky pilot union contract thing to deal with?)
08-19-2012, 02:04 PM
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08-19-2012, 02:07 PM
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What does this mean? The number one pilot at AMR is number 1. The number 1 pilot at DAL is number 1. Their seniority numbers are the same. And in counting order, so is everybody else on both lists. Your post makes absolutely no sense. OR did you mean older? Which has zero relevance.
08-19-2012, 02:25 PM
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What does this mean? The number one pilot at AMR is number 1. The number 1 pilot at DAL is number 1. Their seniority numbers are the same. And in counting order, so is everybody else on both lists. Your post makes absolutely no sense. OR did you mean older? Which has zero relevance.
08-19-2012, 02:33 PM
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Having said all that I think RA only interest in AMR is making sure that their exit from chapter 11 is as expensive as possible. That is why he has interjected himself in the process. Every possible offer drives up what the creditors will demand from American in a stand alone plan.
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