Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-18-2012, 01:59 PM
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Sorry, Innotech in Montreal was bidding on replacing the tail. I had one of their guys as a tech on plane. Owners were pushing to total it because the damage history would always decrease the resale value. I thought it should go back to the factory, bug I guess not.
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08-18-2012, 02:35 PM
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Compass has a mandatory flow up of 20/class up to something like 100-150/year(?). Mesaba still has 9/class for around 100 total flowups(?).
Classes in '07/'08 were about 30/class with one class being 50 (heard it was challanging due to classroom space).
So if the rumors are true and we hire this spring, that leaves about 1 off the street or any random recallies that decide to come back for about the first 4-5 months of hiring.
At least Section 1.D.11 is covered by this flow agreement.
That bites for all the mil guys (AF specificically) that are just now finishing up their 10 year commitments....
This is not bait, I was just unaware of the extent to which the flow reaches and I bet there are a lot of anxious mil guys who were not either.
Classes in '07/'08 were about 30/class with one class being 50 (heard it was challanging due to classroom space).
So if the rumors are true and we hire this spring, that leaves about 1 off the street or any random recallies that decide to come back for about the first 4-5 months of hiring.
At least Section 1.D.11 is covered by this flow agreement.
That bites for all the mil guys (AF specificically) that are just now finishing up their 10 year commitments....
This is not bait, I was just unaware of the extent to which the flow reaches and I bet there are a lot of anxious mil guys who were not either.
08-18-2012, 02:42 PM
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The flow throughs and Mil leave/bypassers will fill all the classes for the next few years. 2015 for outside hires. Wait and see.
08-18-2012, 03:21 PM
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MLOA guys come and go all the time and it sounds like most furlough bypassers have moved on. The flowups do end around 2015, however.
08-18-2012, 03:46 PM
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That could be three years from now or fifteen years from now, depending on shrinking, outsourcing, growth, etc.
08-18-2012, 04:19 PM
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I don't mean to start another DPA debate...but has anyone noticed the claim from them that we are 11.1% overstaffed by Feb. 2013? Just curious what your all's take was on that.....
08-18-2012, 04:22 PM
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Copy, just re-read that. The same for mesaba, 9/month. So half the class if they do the standard 30/class, 2 classes a month.
Based on corrections above, it may not be that bad. It just means it takes flowups out about another 3-4 months, but at less of a density. Which seems appropriate since they've already "interviewed" and have been on a B-scale.
MLOA guys come and go all the time and it sounds like most furlough bypassers have moved on. The flowups do end around 2015, however.
Based on corrections above, it may not be that bad. It just means it takes flowups out about another 3-4 months, but at less of a density. Which seems appropriate since they've already "interviewed" and have been on a B-scale.
MLOA guys come and go all the time and it sounds like most furlough bypassers have moved on. The flowups do end around 2015, however.
Don't forget the 35% of the classes being filled with DCI Alpa pilots....
08-18-2012, 04:28 PM
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The flow will more than satisfy that but if you aren't a flow or DCI you are going to have to wait your turn. I predict flows will be the majority of new hires for 2013 with some non flows starting to trickle in in 2014.
08-18-2012, 04:58 PM
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08-18-2012, 05:00 PM
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