Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-15-2012, 11:53 PM
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Once again.....^^^^^ THIS
Much more "PC" than I would probably have said it.
I simply have to laugh when certain individuals call others too pessimistic or leaking glasses or whatever else. I'm guessing most of them were able to hold a captain seat by year 11, if not darn close, let alone still being in the bottom 10% of the list. And 5 years of FE duty (frequent tale of woe): I'd have taken that in a heartbeat over furlough.
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Much more "PC" than I would probably have said it.
I simply have to laugh when certain individuals call others too pessimistic or leaking glasses or whatever else. I'm guessing most of them were able to hold a captain seat by year 11, if not darn close, let alone still being in the bottom 10% of the list. And 5 years of FE duty (frequent tale of woe): I'd have taken that in a heartbeat over furlough.
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This and also Free Bird's post.
11 years here and STILL seniority # is above what the company says it needs to run the airline. Bottom part of the list is one small TA efficiency away from another 5 year furlough. My analysis says our hiring through 2016 is taken care of by the new contract, and anything beyond that will likely be handled by some sort of merger/shrinkage. When the entire list stagnates for 5 years due to 65, it's way easy to talk rosy when you're sitting at the TOP of the world for those extra 5 years... things are different when you're at the bottom for an extra 5 years, especially right after more than 5 years furlough.
08-16-2012, 12:17 AM
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08-16-2012, 01:25 AM
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Hey folks, how do I check whether I've already used my APD for this year?
08-16-2012, 01:42 AM
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08-16-2012, 04:07 AM
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No, We are taking delivery of 208 aircraft new to the fleet. There will be reductions in older aircraft most in the 757 fleet. How deep those reductions are will depend on the economy and marketing plan going forward. There are also options for 30 more aircraft in this time frame if things turned around.
08-16-2012, 04:09 AM
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^^^^^^^^^
This and also Free Bird's post.
11 years here and STILL seniority # is above what the company says it needs to run the airline. Bottom part of the list is one small TA efficiency away from another 5 year furlough. My analysis says our hiring through 2016 is taken care of by the new contract, and anything beyond that will likely be handled by some sort of merger/shrinkage. When the entire list stagnates for 5 years due to 65, it's way easy to talk rosy when you're sitting at the TOP of the world for those extra 5 years... things are different when you're at the bottom for an extra 5 years, especially right after more than 5 years furlough.
This and also Free Bird's post.
11 years here and STILL seniority # is above what the company says it needs to run the airline. Bottom part of the list is one small TA efficiency away from another 5 year furlough. My analysis says our hiring through 2016 is taken care of by the new contract, and anything beyond that will likely be handled by some sort of merger/shrinkage. When the entire list stagnates for 5 years due to 65, it's way easy to talk rosy when you're sitting at the TOP of the world for those extra 5 years... things are different when you're at the bottom for an extra 5 years, especially right after more than 5 years furlough.
The company has the option to overhaul some 757's and retain them in the fleet and exercise options for addition 900ER's if the economy turns around. They can retire additional aircraft if the economy tanks. Widebody order due late fall or early winter. It will be a mostly replacement order with deliveries starting around 17. Again options for growth if things turn around.
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08-16-2012, 04:46 AM
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DAL and NWA have a long history in MKE. Back in the day you saw Whales and DC-10's in MKE for NWA. Investments in MEH, commitments to MKE after that, then a final pullout a few years ago.
In comes in F9 to buy MEH, they try to make a go of it, fail miserably, and disband all hints of MEH, the on-board cookies were last. Their promise of hundreds of jobs in MKE did not come true.
It's just an investment in the naming rights of a building, but now that F9 and SWA are slugging it out there it is of an interesting note that DAL would consider this.
Now sure what F9 would bring to DAL mainline. I can see SKW buying them and then DAL wanting a domestic code share agreement with them. The miles from F9 already transfer to Skymiles. There has been a few of these less notable developments over the last year or so.
08-16-2012, 04:49 AM
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08-16-2012, 05:01 AM
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08-16-2012, 05:13 AM
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How did you get the age/seniority data for the whole list?
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