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Old 08-15-2012, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
191 early outs? That's all???

What did we give up for that?

...oh, and no one who applied was turned down.
We gave nothing up for the ER program according to the negotiators. I was against the program because normally they provide very short term gains so I asked that specific question. The company extended the same program to the pilots that the other employees got just like a few years ago with the earlier version. It turns out I was wrong on the program and a significant number of younger pilots took the ER and it will be more beneficial then I thought.
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:18 PM
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I have had two different Frontier pilots tell me that they think Delta is going to buy them. Is anyone else hearing this? There's also the thing about renaming the arena in MKE after Delta.
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I have had two different Frontier pilots tell me that they think Delta is going to buy them. Is anyone else hearing this? There's also the thing about renaming the arena in MKE after Delta.
I found Dal buying the naming rights to the Midwest center peculiar. Why though? I guess we may have a bigger focus in MKE now that it's the Delta Air Lines Center.

Their Mikles now directly transfer to skymiles as well. Makes me wonder if a we buy em or SKW does and we start a domestic cs with them and reduce thenalk one. That would hurt ALK's market cap to the point they may be a buyout target. Just thinking aloud.
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I found Dal buying the naming rights to the Midwest center peculiar. Why though? I guess we may have a bigger focus in MKE now that it's the Delta Air Lines Center.

Their Mikles now directly transfer to skymiles as well. Makes me wonder if a we buy em or SKW does and we start a domestic cs with them and reduce thenalk one. That would hurt ALK's market cap to the point they may be a buyout target. Just thinking aloud.
MKE has been an on again/off again love affair since the North Central days.

Nothing to see here, move along.

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Old 08-15-2012, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
MKE has been an on again/off again love affair since the North Central days.

Nothing to see here, move along.

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Exactly right.

This certainly wouldn't be the first time we've wasted money in Milwaukee.
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:54 PM
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Who is good with Excel?
Can somebody crunch the final Excel list of RMA pilots with the Excel list of retirement dates on DeltaNet to come up with the ages of the RMA guys? I saw the graph from before the "opt-out" deadline.
I'd like to know if Sailingfun's claim that they are mostly younger than expected is true or not after the opt out period.
If it is true, that would be good news and would mitigate the disappointing 191 number.
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Who is good with Excel?
Can somebody crunch the final Excel list of RMA pilots with the Excel list of retirement dates on DeltaNet to come up with the ages of the RMA guys? I saw the graph from before the "opt-out" deadline.
I'd like to know if Sailingfun's claim that they are mostly younger than expected is true or not after the opt out period.
If it is true, that would be good news and would mitigate the disappointing 191 number.
I suspect by tomorrow at close of business a new chart will be produced by DALPA.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
And yet this forum gives out wrong answers constantly in regard to the contract.
Such as?

Originally Posted by sailingfun
That leadership is terrible. No pilots on furlough, A contract that is industry leading in the passenger industry. Raises that blow everyone else in the industry away over the last 5 years. Lump sum pots of cash everyone seems to forget about. Planned hiring, 208 new aircraft in the next 4 years. This in one of the worst economic eras in history.
Its funny how I ride a lot of jumpseats to my main job and my hobby job. All I get is barraged with questions on how to get hired at Delta. Very strange. Must be that terrible union leadership!.
208 new aircraft? We have 714 now. So are we going up to 922 mainline aircraft in the next four years?
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I have had two different Frontier pilots tell me that they think Delta is going to buy them. Is anyone else hearing this? There's also the thing about renaming the arena in MKE after Delta.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Who is good with Excel?
Can somebody crunch the final Excel list of RMA pilots with the Excel list of retirement dates on DeltaNet to come up with the ages of the RMA guys? I saw the graph from before the "opt-out" deadline.
I'd like to know if Sailingfun's claim that they are mostly younger than expected is true or not after the opt out period.
If it is true, that would be good news and would mitigate the disappointing 191 number.
When I break it out on excel, this is what I get:





So, it looks as if Sailing is right. I show 71% of the RMA (post withdrawl) being under 61.

The only problem is, it's only 191 pilots out of a little under 12,000.
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