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Old 07-21-2009, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
What makes you think they will offer another? The anemic program they DID offer was taken by 215, so it appears obvious (to me anyway) that it would take significant improvement to get more. Don't read too much into that statement.. It would be nice though
For now I think we are done, but if the economy remains flat, it would be a good leveler.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BlaineFaban
Not at all, I called you out, and you were wrong. That is adding something, accountability and credibility. You really should quit now. it's only going to get worse. It is clear that you guys do not understand what exactly the pull and plug was.
Add me to that list - I thought the "pull and plug" was the older FMS on the 757.

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Old 07-21-2009, 10:05 AM
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Pull and plug, that sounds dangerous!
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Blaine,

You've called nobody out. You don't even know how to call. You put out your opinion and label them as fact.

You add nothing.

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Oh bull. It is not an opinion, the pull and plug is indeed a fact, and misunderstood by you. This PRP did not negate the 274. NWA pilots got the benefit from their retirements from day 1. You are just not smart enough to realize it. The pulls were "retired" from the NWA list prior to the creation of the merged list. Therefore, the benefit of their "retirement" was immediate as with them in the list everybody junior to less would have had a more junior ratio. So there was benefit there, and the when they actually retired after being plugged back into the list at their respective seniority again, dal pilots AND nwa pilots move up. In effect, NWA pilots benefit TWICE from the pull and plug for every "pull" senior to them. That IS how it works. It is NOT opinion. You WERE called out, and wrong.

Stop being a crybaby, man up, and admit you are wrong
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BlaineFaban
Oh bull. It is not an opinion, the pull and plug is indeed a fact, and misunderstood by you. This PRP did not negate the 274. NWA pilots got the benefit from their retirements from day 1. You are just not smart enough to realize it. The pulls were "retired" from the NWA list prior to the creation of the merged list. Therefore, the benefit of their "retirement" was immediate as with them in the list everybody junior to less would have had a more junior ratio. So there was benefit there, and the when they actually retired after being plugged back into the list at their respective seniority again, dal pilots AND nwa pilots move up. In effect, NWA pilots benefit TWICE from the pull and plug for every "pull" senior to them. That IS how it works. It is NOT opinion. You WERE called out, and wrong.

Stop being a crybaby, man up, and admit you are wrong
Enough! Take it over to the M&A section where you can argue for the rest of your career on this. ITs over. It is what it is. Argue at your hearts content but read the title of this thread "Latest and Greatest". There is nothing Latest or Greatest about this. So quit hijacking the thread on who's shlong is bigger or how you've been wronged or what side benefited more by .25%.

Go reintroduce yourselves to your wives. They probably would welcome their "man" back in their life.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:22 AM
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The more I read this thread, the more I'm starting to think that this is US Air all over again. All we need is a catalyst to start the fire.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
The more I read this thread, the more I'm starting to think that this is US Air all over again. All we need is a catalyst to start the fire.
While I respect your opinion, I disagree.

This forum, along with FlightInfo, JetCareers, and the ALPA forum among others, represents the opinions of a very small minority of the pilots from the new Delta. Each forum has its own "hot button" issues based on the demographics of the folks that participate on it. I have heard very little negativity in the south pilot lounge. All my interactions with North line guys have been positive. Even with the benefit of anonymous pseudonyms, this forum has been relatively civil regarding the issues of SLI. There are a few that can't or won't ever "get it", but even they are the minority here. In comparison to Western and Pan Am, or Republic-Northwest this is nothing...

Yes, there could be a catalyst to change our current success story. As long as we muddle through with a better story to tell than any other full service network airline, I think we'll be fine. If the economics change and the merger becomes punitive, then maybe not so much. But right now there's nobody in the business that can show better results, especially in comparison to where either party would have been in standalone operations.

Just my opinion, and I'm probably wrong. It's glass half full time, and I still see beer flowing from the tap.

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Old 07-21-2009, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
While I respect your opinion, I disagree.

This forum, along with FlightInfo, JetCareers, and the ALPA forum among others, represents the opinions of a very small minority of the pilots from the new Delta. Each forum has its own "hot button" issues based on the demographics of the folks that participate on it. Even with the benefit of anonymous pseudonyms, this forum has been relatively civil regarding the issues of SLI. There are a few that can't or won't ever "get it", but even they are the minority here. In comparison to Western and Pan Am, or Republic-Northwest this is nothing...

Yes, there could be a catalyst to change our current success story. As long as we muddle through with a better story to tell than any other full service network airline, I think we'll be fine. If the economics change and the merger becomes punitive, then maybe not so much. But right now there's nobody in the business that can show better results, especially in comparison to where either party would have been in standalone operations.

Just my opinion, and I'm probably wrong. It's glass half full time, and I still see beer flowing from the tap.
Jeez Slow.....Why you gotta go and be nice AND logical with everybody!

You seem like such a good communicator, DALPA could use the help of a guy like you!!
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Jeez Slow.....Why you gotta go and be nice AND logical with everybody!

You seem like such a good communicator, DALPA could use the help of a guy like you!!
Now that is very humorous. I do not care who you are.

I am sure our DALPA communications specialist is busy typing up the minutes.......
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
How 'bout them Bears?

Seriously, can we drop the SLI stuff or just move it, from BOTH sides....yea, I'm looking at you Bar and Carl...don't make me separate you two! I'll turn this car around...I mean it!

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I thought we agreed to agree with you.
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