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Old 07-21-2009, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BlaineFaban
Not at all, I called you out, and you were wrong. That is adding something, accountability and credibility. You really should quit now. it's only going to get worse. It is clear that you guys do not understand what exactly the pull and plug was.
Blaine,

You've called nobody out. You don't even know how to call. You put out your opinion and label them as fact.

You add nothing.

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Old 07-21-2009, 09:29 AM
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DTW, MEM and SEA over ANC?
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
There are still about 83 of them still holding lines on the ER in NYC.
And a small handful of 07 hires sitting reserve on the ER in ATL.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:31 AM
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How 'bout them Bears?

Seriously, can we drop the SLI stuff or just move it, from BOTH sides....yea, I'm looking at you Bar and Carl...don't make me separate you two! I'll turn this car around...I mean it!

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Old 07-21-2009, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Wow, interesting. Not that it matters, but I'll bet this means mostly green dudes. Too bad, the old Hughes guys are such a blast to work with.

With that said, I sure wish they would tell us what the plans are for the A330. This will open up opportunities on it for both Capts and Fos, but I for one don't want to bid it till I see where it is going to end up.

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I think anything you bid now is a crap shoot... It does appear that the NWA management got the koolaid injection before all the DAL dudes left, so probably the only sure thing is Atlanta.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Carl;
There are many of us that want the dialogue and openly welcome you to the table. I am one of them.
Both sides bring a lot. Lets focus on where we are going, not where we were or where we could a, should a been.
I appreciate that ACL. I agree that we should be focusing on where we're going. But remember, this latest round started with Bucking Bar expressing his anger at pull and plug, and how it was an unprecedented arbitrator action, etc. When people do that after the fact, that's not looking forward. When that happens, it is important to try to show all sides.

A lie that is not challenged becomes the truth. So I will challenge things that I see are lies and distortions. Then others will call me a liar and a distorter. Then life moves on. Hopefully focusing on the future and not on the past that we cannot change.

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Old 07-21-2009, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Box Office
And a small handful of 07 hires sitting reserve on the ER in ATL.
Yep, you are clutching on for dear life. I feel your pain. I see they are not flying you too much either.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I appreciate that ACL. I agree that we should be focusing on where we're going. But remember, this latest round started with Bucking Bar expressing his anger at pull and plug, and how it was an unprecedented arbitrator action, etc. When people do that after the fact, that's not looking forward. When that happens, it is important to try to show all sides.

A lie that is not challenged becomes the truth. So I will challenge things that I see are lies and distortions. Then others will call me a liar and a distorter. Then life moves on. Hopefully focusing on the future and not on the past that we cannot change.

Carl
Well Carl;
I consider Bar a friend. We have had may talks on this and I think his only fear is getting pushed from ATL.
I have not discussed this latest stuff with him, but he always seems to look at it from a ALPA bylaw stand pilot. In that regard he is black and white. Maybe he will get away from the Honey-do's and get on here and start explaining it.
Either way, it is what it is and we agreed to all the possible outcomes when we agreed to the JPWA with the TFA inferred.

As for this stuff. We have much bigger and better things to worry about. Like, What's for lunch?", "How much are we really going to show for a loss tomorrow?", or "Is UAUA really going to post better numbers and us?"
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Whatever happened to Guard Dude anyway?

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Boy is commuting, new baby and working two jobs. Need I say more.....
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Flying Monkey
You're not privy to that info?
Oh wouldn't you like to know!
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