Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-13-2012, 04:06 AM
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It will continue to be unheard of. It was possible once, but not anymore. Soon, you will not even be able to work at a regional until you are 23 with an ATP. I don't mean to be negative, but 21 is an unrealistic goal. 23 is the absolute youngest you will be able to get on and even that is near impossible.
08-13-2012, 04:09 AM
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This is exactly what I was coming on here this AM to post. If you want to go to ERAU, get a degree in business. Their MBA is does not have the highest certification, but people get hired with it all of the time. I would not get a meteorology degree, unless you wanna continue your studies at one of the top universities for an advanced meteorology degree. You need a good backup. Medicals are revoked and depending on where you are in your career at the time of the event, disability may not cover your basic needs.
Otherwise, I'd be completely onboard with your suggestion. But because of those ATP minimums, that's the driving factor for choosing AeroSci. It's a risk I'm willing to take. (But I COMPLETELY understand where you're coming from)
One thing that I believe could potentially make a huge difference in my career is networking. Any idea on how to begin doing that with Delta pilots now? I think having a recommendation from a current Delta employee for the internship would increase my chances of getting the internship.
Also, how much does Delta value academic history? I have perfect grades, 4.0 GPA, all Honors, soon to be all AP, etc. Does that make a difference for them?
Overall, the largest reason that I want to get onboard with Delta ASAP is because Delta will always be my goal, and the sooner I can get a seniority number, the better. Because I would potentially be hired for beginning summer 2019 with Delta, that's at the beginning of the retirement wave. That movement will be amazing as well...we're probably looking at 7 or 8 year upgrade times, little time on reserve, etc. I feel bad for people going to Delta in 2030 at the end of the wave!
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08-13-2012, 04:36 AM
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If only I knew how many airboats are powered by Lycoming O-540's liberated from Cherokee 6's.
$50,000 fresh with logbooks. $500 on the back of Ed's Air Boat.
Bad day when you come to the airport and every 6 cyl airplane at the airport is sitting on its tail and the cowlings are missing. The air boat crowd can't use the propellers and I've seen $20,000 props tossed in the ditch.
$50,000 fresh with logbooks. $500 on the back of Ed's Air Boat.
Bad day when you come to the airport and every 6 cyl airplane at the airport is sitting on its tail and the cowlings are missing. The air boat crowd can't use the propellers and I've seen $20,000 props tossed in the ditch.
That blows.
08-13-2012, 04:45 AM
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08-13-2012, 05:13 AM
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On a serious note, what you are doing is a first step. The recommendations that carry the most weight are from those guys who have flown with you. That said, the ones from guys who know you through church, civic groups, or flying clubs carry a lot of weight too. Outside of that, I got a bank routing number for you if you desperately need a recommendation.
08-13-2012, 05:15 AM
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Cash. Lots and lots of cash!
On a serious note, what you are doing is a first step. The recommendations that carry the most weight are from those guys who have flown with you. That said, the ones from guys who know you through church, civic groups, or flying clubs carry a lot of weight too. Outside of that, I got a bank routing number for you if you desperately need a recommendation.
On a serious note, what you are doing is a first step. The recommendations that carry the most weight are from those guys who have flown with you. That said, the ones from guys who know you through church, civic groups, or flying clubs carry a lot of weight too. Outside of that, I got a bank routing number for you if you desperately need a recommendation.
We'll see... (just kidding, of course)I'll definitely have a couple recommendations from outside sources, maybe one from my first flight instructor, one from a teacher, that kind of thing. I just think something from Delta would mean more to them.
08-13-2012, 05:21 AM
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Don't make the error of blaming 9/11 for the ending stages of post deregulation contracts and outsourcing brought. The airlines were entering a pretty hard down cycle when 9/11 happened. The combination of 9/11, the down cycle, age 65 and outsourcing all combined to pile drive junior pilots in the last 12 years.
Of those effects, the most significant and longest lasting was outsourcing.
Glad we are starting to turn that around.
Of those effects, the most significant and longest lasting was outsourcing.
Glad we are starting to turn that around.
08-13-2012, 05:34 AM
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Like I said above, I would have to do the Aeronautical Science degree to be eligible for reduced ATP mins (21 years old, lord knows how many hours they'll reduce it by, etc. After all, otherwise how would airlines like GoJetz stay staffed?)
Otherwise, I'd be completely onboard with your suggestion. But because of those ATP minimums, that's the driving factor for choosing AeroSci. It's a risk I'm willing to take. (But I COMPLETELY understand where you're coming from)
One thing that I believe could potentially make a huge difference in my career is networking. Any idea on how to begin doing that with Delta pilots now? I think having a recommendation from a current Delta employee for the internship would increase my chances of getting the internship.
Also, how much does Delta value academic history? I have perfect grades, 4.0 GPA, all Honors, soon to be all AP, etc. Does that make a difference for them?
Overall, the largest reason that I want to get onboard with Delta ASAP is because Delta will always be my goal, and the sooner I can get a seniority number, the better. Because I would potentially be hired for beginning summer 2019 with Delta, that's at the beginning of the retirement wave. That movement will be amazing as well...we're probably looking at 7 or 8 year upgrade times, little time on reserve, etc. I feel bad for people going to Delta in 2030 at the end of the wave!
Otherwise, I'd be completely onboard with your suggestion. But because of those ATP minimums, that's the driving factor for choosing AeroSci. It's a risk I'm willing to take. (But I COMPLETELY understand where you're coming from)
One thing that I believe could potentially make a huge difference in my career is networking. Any idea on how to begin doing that with Delta pilots now? I think having a recommendation from a current Delta employee for the internship would increase my chances of getting the internship.
Also, how much does Delta value academic history? I have perfect grades, 4.0 GPA, all Honors, soon to be all AP, etc. Does that make a difference for them?
Overall, the largest reason that I want to get onboard with Delta ASAP is because Delta will always be my goal, and the sooner I can get a seniority number, the better. Because I would potentially be hired for beginning summer 2019 with Delta, that's at the beginning of the retirement wave. That movement will be amazing as well...we're probably looking at 7 or 8 year upgrade times, little time on reserve, etc. I feel bad for people going to Delta in 2030 at the end of the wave!
Interview gouge. When you walk thru the door, look like a Republican banker. Don't wear a brown suit.. don't wear stylish sunglasses and good God almighty, no earbuds. Blue suit, white shirt, red tie, black Wingtip shoes. Cut your hair. If you have tatts or piercings, they better not be visible. If you got a Mike Tyson tatt on the cheek, best of luck. I think Starbucks will hire you, but your chances at DAL I would think are pretty thin.
If you stand out in some of the aforementioned ways, the secretaries will love you, but you probably won't get hired.
And the plural of ya'll is all ya'll.
08-13-2012, 05:44 AM
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Interview gouge. When you walk thru the door, look like a Republican banker. Don't wear a brown suit.. don't wear stylish sunglasses and good God almighty, no earbuds. Blue suit, white shirt, red tie, black Wingtip shoes. Cut your hair. If you have tatts or piercings, they better not be visible. If you got a Mike Tyson tatt on the cheek, best of luck. I think Starbucks will hire you, but your chances at DAL I would think are pretty thin.
If you stand out in some of the aforementioned ways, the secretaries will love you, but you probably won't get hired.
And the plural of ya'll is all ya'll.
If you stand out in some of the aforementioned ways, the secretaries will love you, but you probably won't get hired.
And the plural of ya'll is all ya'll.
08-13-2012, 05:54 AM
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Hey Bar! Thanks for the engines!
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